Quote Hi david,A kingdom is a system of government under one king who can delegate roles and responsibilities.On Dec 13, you said the above.

Quote that scripture does say to enter the kingdom you must be born again. That does not say that 'to rule' in the kingdom but just to enter or be a part of the kingdom.OK Nick, before, you agreed that the kingdom was a governemt. Here you say that to “be a part of the kingdom ” you must be born again. I agree. What does it mean to “be a part…[Read more]

Nick, to say there is no circumstantial evidence is simply false.WHO IS MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL?Michael means “Who Is Like God?” The name evidently designates Michael as the one who takes the lead in upholding Jehovah’s sovereignty and destroying God’s enemies.He is referred to as “the great prince who has charge of your people,” and as “the archan…[Read more]

Quote Was Michael a son of God? Possibly, even probably he may have been one among all those shown in Jb 1,2,38.Can we be sure? No, because his name is not mentioned there in those verses.Does scripture state that Michael is a son of God? No Scripture does not call Michael a son of God.So should we teach that he is? NoHere's what scripture does…[Read more]

Quote What we have agreed is that not ALL the “holy ones” are kings and rulers.Who is “we?” We are told in several places that the holy ones rule, that they would be priests and judges. These are their roles. Quote Scripture seems to suggest that to even be among those who are ruled one must be born again.Perhaps in your mind scripture might…[Read more]

Jehovah did not create Satan (meaning Opposer; Resister), any more than a parent creates a criminal.A child is not born a criminal. He chooses to become one. He turns himself into a criminal.Satan the Devil was an angel who because of pride wanted what Jehovah had. He wanted to be worshipped, so he set out on a plan that he believed would…[Read more]

Quote A kingdom is a system of government under one king who can delegate roles and responsibilities.There is Jesus. But clearly Jehovah saw fit to have others ruling as kings.DANIEL 7:14“And to him there were given rulership and dignity and kingdom, that the peoples, national groups and languages should all serve even him. His rulership is an i…[Read more]

Hi Kenrch,COLOSSIANS 3:9-10“Strip off the old personality with its practices, and clothe yourselves with the new , which through accurate knowledge is being made new according to the image of the One who created it,”EPHESIANS 4:23-24“but that YOU should be made new in the force actuating YOUR mind, and should put on the new personality which was c…[Read more]

Quote How many million JW's agree with you?You have often pointed out I have very few.Be consistent. Ask yourself the same question using the same logic and answer me…what does that seem to say? It's millions verses billions Nick. Every tom, dick and Harry believes they are born again and going to heaven. They don't question why or for what…[Read more]

Quote Right or wrong?you'll have to actually read my post for the answer Nick.

Quote I understand that if someone says you are wrong then that is to you a compliment, indicating persecution, and further evidence for you that you and your teachers are right.No, not persecution. But, you keep pointing out that I (we) are different (as we are) from the majority of those who call themselves Christians. If most people agree…[Read more]

Quote Are you saying that their will be no humans on earth under the geovernment.If they will be humans on earth are you going to be one of them in your present state? With your evil thoughts and sinful ways!Now address the statement that I made. Everyone on the New Earth Will Be Born Again, Right or Wong?Nick, everyone who makes up the kingdom…[Read more]

But I am the one asserting that that scripture says exactly what it says and no more.Those who make up the kingdom must be born again.My question to you Nick, is what is the kingdom? Who make it up? What purpose does it serve?

Quote You must be born again to enter the kngdom according to scripture. You say you can enter the kingdom but not as a leader without being born again?Once again you are on your own and outside of the teaching of the Word of God, as is your way.Nick, being on my own I am used to. If you like being in the majority, you should ask yourself what…[Read more]

Quote No No david,What I say does not matter. It is what scripture says the matters. Scripture does not say Adam was created perfect so I cannot say he was. And neither does scripture say he was created imperfect. But no where do we have any hint that he was created imperfect by God. There is nothing to indicate that God creates anything…[Read more]

Quote Fine theories but they have no substantiation in scripture. The Son came to offer eternal life. Is there eternal life outside of the Son?Of course not. But what you fail to understand is why a person must be born again. You fail to understand God's purpose for the earth and mankind. I dont' remember moses, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, or…[Read more]

Are you saying Adam wasn't created perfect Nick. He had free will. He chose to become sinful. He chose to sin. It was his choice. At that point, he wasn't perfect. ROMANS 5:12“That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned—.”And we, have…[Read more]

Nick, if you believe that “eternal destruction” is a slow destruction over all eternity where the destruction never actually comes because it is eternal and hence not actually destruction, then I can understand your confusion over other things.2 THESSALONIANS 1:9“These very ones will undergo the judicial punishment of everlasting destruction f…[Read more]

Quote Is that an optional extra for those who want to be leaders?Jesus came to preach this kingdom and suffered and died that it be heard throughout the world. Was he wasting his time with unnecessary folly as you could always save yourself anyway?I am not saying we can save ourselves. We can't. But a kingdom as Sultan has shown is basically a…[Read more]

Right Sultan, and I agree with that. “….YOU will not be a part of the kingdom UNLESS YOU'RE BORN AGAIN.” But what does it mean to be a part of that kingdom? What purpose do those who make up this kingdom serve? What is the purpose of this kingdom? You're right, the issue was not the definiton of what the kingdom is. But, since he said, as…[Read more]