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    Would you open up a cigarette store Nick?

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    david replied to the topic love among all in the forum Faith 20 years, 5 months ago

    Quote King David while escaping from Absalom sent out a couple of spies who had to hide in a well for their protection. A dear woman had to tell a lie for their protection.So I would say that motive counts as much as anything. Why does one want to go to war? to take what isn't his/hers and assert control over others, etc? Or is it to protect…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic love among all in the forum Faith 20 years, 5 months ago

    JOHN 13:35“By this all will know that YOU are my disciples, if YOU have love among yourselves.””Frankly, the so called Christians with blood on their hands look very similiar to the non-Christians with blood on their hands. They look the same. Should not Christians be distinct, and separate from the world and it's politics–“no part of the world…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic love among all in the forum Faith 20 years, 5 months ago

    Quote We have some level of control over our personal wills, how we choose to respond to and treat others… we have very limited control on how a nation acts given the collective will. We see that in the news. It is unrealistic therefore to expect the national will to be controlled by the personal will. If you ask me Cubes, it's almost as if…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic love among all in the forum Faith 20 years, 5 months ago

    Where are you from Cubes? I wonder this because if a certain country ever goes to war with my country, I would like to know if you are one of the ones shooting at me.Quote 1. Jesus says whoever does the Father's will is his mother, brother or sister… I find greater meaning in that definition first of all as I find that natural ties has its…[Read more]

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    Nick, we all know where this is heading. We knew where it was heading 5 minutes before you originally asked the question.You must be born again….to enter God's kingdom.Quote Thank you. If you hear the gospel and believe in Jesus Christ is that all? Of course not Nick. The demons believe in Jesus. And they know “exactly” who he is. Yet, not…

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    david replied to the topic love among all in the forum Faith 20 years, 5 months ago

    Quote I believe there is a coming battle in which we will come with Jesus and it gets pretty vengeful and bloody by all accounts.Love is corrective, God is a jealous God, and He says vengeance is mine.So there is definately such a thing as a God led war.As for the wars of men, these are motivated by greed, politics and corruption.So much so that…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic love among all in the forum Faith 20 years, 5 months ago

    Quote Hi david,You assume far too much about what I believe. Quote Nick apparently believes we should obey the government and go to war, if that's what the governement wants. If that is not what you believe, just say so. Say: “I do not believe we should obey the governments and go to war, if that's what the government wants.” Say it, and there…[Read more]

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    Shortly after he had instituted the Memorial of his death, Jesus saw to it that his disciples had two swords with them. For what purpose? To establish a vital principle, one that all Christians would need to observe. When the soldier band came to arrest Jesus in Gethsemane, Peter wielded a sword, striking off the right ear of Malchus, a slave of…[Read more]

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    MATTHEW. 26:52“Jesus said to him: ‘Return your sword to its place, for all those who take the sword will perish by the sword.’” COULD THERE HAVE BEEN ANY HIGHER CAUCE FOR WHICH TO FIGHT THAN TO SAFEGUARD THE SON OF GOD?Yet, Jesus here indicated that those disciples were not to resort to weapons of physical warfare.

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    Quote If I'm killed then it's because I'm supposed to be with the Lord. Praise His Holy Name!Those who have faith in God value their relationship with him more than their own life. To disregard his commands and save your own life wouldn't mean a lot.Kenrch, what do you think of “Christians” who kill?

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    david replied to the topic love among all in the forum Faith 20 years, 5 months ago

    Quote I've noticed from reading your other posts and during our discussions you tend to overstate, mis-quote, redirect, and quote as “the final authority” sources which agree with you. These are very effective toolsHi Seeking Truth. Nothing you send offends me. I would prefer the second I say something that you disagree with for you to tell me…[Read more]

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    Quote Hi david,Why don't you share what the JWs teach. Don't be shy. How can we know if they are a part of this worldwide work if we do not know what they preach. It could all be nonsense. I was attempting to do that Nick. I began with this scripture:Quote MATTHEW 24:14“And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited e…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic love among all in the forum Faith 20 years, 5 months ago

    Quote DAVID:I had been more of a pacifist, that is, until I saw a few Jewish Holocaust DocumentariesI am not a pacifist, as I look to God's war of armageddon to end wickedness. I have been to see the Holocaust Museum in New York. There was once a whole section in there on Jehovah's Witnesses. We were the only ones who could have left the…[Read more]

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    In Ring magazine of November 4, 1992, said of Jehovah’s Witnesses: “They would choose to die rather than kill someone. Consequently, I am sure if only Jehovah’s Witnesses lived on the earth then wars would not break out anywhere.” Reo M. Christenson, a professor of political science, discussed in The Christian Century whether a genuine Christi…[Read more]

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    “Jehovah’s Witnesses maintain a strict neutrality in time of war,” notes the Australian Encyclopædia. While as individuals they may choose to take this position, they do not interfere with the affairs of the government under which they live. Thus they did not support Hitler’s war, and so none of them were tried during the Nuremberg trials as war criminals.

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    THOSE KNOWN AS EARLY CHRISTIANSEarly Christians refused to serve in the Roman army, in both the legions and auxilia, considering such service as wholly incompatible with the teachings of Christianity. Says Justin Martyr, of the second century C.E., in his “Dialogue With Trypho, a Jew” (CX): “We who were filled with war, and mutual slaughter, and e…[Read more]

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    When the WORLD goes to war, if it ever does again, what would a Christian do?“They are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world.” (John 17:6)True Christians, are no part of the world, that is.

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    Funny.Yes, but we're discussing the good news, the message that is to be preached in all the inhabited earth. How will this take place?

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    Quote QuoteNick, I know you're not part of a religion that's banned in several countries, and so perhaps are having difficulty with this. But if God says: “Preach the good news,” and the governement says: “You may not preach,” whom would you listen to Nick? Who? Just wondering?Nick, I know you don't like anwering these hard questions. But I…[Read more]

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