In the “great apostasy” thread, Nick wrote: The greatest apostasy seemed to occur in the 2nd century AD when parts of the church aligned with the state in Constantine and compromised the teachings of Christ. I believe those that did so cut themselves off from the head of the Body, Christ himself. They have continued to flourish till the present…[Read more]

Interesting. I could use a pole shift. It's awefully cold up here. Well, not now. But during winter.About Revelation and people hiding in mountains:REVELATION 6:15-16“And the kings of the earth and the top-ranking ones and the military commanders and the rich and the strong ones and every slave and free person hid themselves in the caves a…[Read more]

I think what sandra is trying to say is: There are individuals who will go “one eye” to the bir.And this is because of the damage of hypergleutics.Caligula!

A couple days ago, in the ministry, going from “house to house” (acts 5:42; acts 20;20) I met a Jewish agnostic mathematician physicist philospher who likes to use really big words.When I asked him if he believed in God, he said I had biased the question by using the word “God.”He said something like:”If you mean 'god' in a poetical sense, then…[Read more]

Hey cubes,Quote DAVID: I can't see him taking a machine gun and blowing people up and I CAN'T SEE HIM SAYING, SHEPHERDS, IT'S OK TO LET THEM KILL YOU and scatter the sheep;Quote He didn't save JTB out of prison because JTB is a great prophet who could have himself asked God for such a miracle if he so desired but HOW ELSE WOULD THE PROPHECY…[Read more]

Hi Cubes. I had thought you were from the U.S. So if Africa and the U.S. go to war. If for whatever reason we find that Africa just happens to be sitting on oil and they don't feel like sharing…..which direction will your gun be pointing and who exactly will you be defending? I realize that at present this is an unlikely scenario. Canada…[Read more]

Are we told to “restrain evil,” as you say, or to keep “restrained under evil”? (2 tim 2:24)

Quote I agree with Cubes non-violence can become a stumbling block.And I agree with the early Christians and Jesus. And I also note what was fortold:2 PETER 2:1-3“However, there also came to be false prophets among the people, as there will also be false teachers among YOU. These very ones will quietly bring in destructive sects and will disown e…[Read more]

Just discussing this scripture in the “spiritual warefare” thread and can't remember if it found it's way into this thread.2 CORINTHIANS 10:3, 4:“Though we walk in the flesh, we do not wage warfare according to what we are in the flesh. For the weapons of our warfare are not fleshly, but powerful by God for overturning strongly entrenched t…[Read more]

Quote oops wrong quote in last post.Should have been;QuoteHow do we demolish these fortresses?Do you really think that this is refering to fortresses made of earth?I don't, I think it is refering to fighting beliefs.Yes, of course I think it's refering to beliefs. Nick had made a point of taking us off track to attack the Bible I use and subtely…[Read more]

Quote the Jesus who took the whip and drove people out of his Father's temple and called others “fools, blind, vipers” etc! There is nothing wrong with righteous indignation, as shown by Jesus. Jesus however was not hacking people up with swords, but rather driving the money changers out. Jesus had great love for his Father's house, not for the…[Read more]

I use the NW translation, and when I use different Bibles, I have always tried to make it clear which translation I'm using.Your NASB has “fortresses.” Most Bibles on the gateway Bible thingy have “strongholds” in this place.My Bible has “strongly entrenched things.”I looked up “entrenched” on my computer dictionary. The second defintion…[Read more]

Quote Do not the Hare Krishnas and Buddhists teach peace and harmony amongst all?Nick, I thought MOST religions TEACH peace and harmony amongst all. Whether they follow that teaching themselves is another matter.”But what of their fruit,” as you say in your opening remarks.Quote Did not Jesus say we must hate our own family to follow him?“If a…[Read more]

Yes, true indeed.2 CORINTHIANS 10:3, 4: “Though we walk in the flesh, we do not wage warfare according to what we are in the flesh. For the weapons of our warfare are not fleshly, but powerful by God for overturning strongly entrenched things.”

Hey Nick. Yah, I've been wanting to keep this discussion in this thread, but in some ways it does apply, or overlap. Sorry.Quote The Belgian newspaper La Dernière Heure relates that during the war Roman Catholic Cardinal Amette of Paris said this to the French soldiers:“My brothers, comrades of the French army and of their glorious allies, the Al…[Read more]

The Belgian newspaper La Dernière Heure relates that during the war Roman Catholic Cardinal Amette of Paris said this to the French soldiers:“My brothers, comrades of the French army and of their glorious allies, the Almighty God is on our side. . . . God is near to our brave soldiers in battle, he gives them strength and fortifies them against th…[Read more]

Cubes, you often speak of defending your neighbors in war.This is not really what war is.War is seldom what it appears to be. It often is the cause of greed. It often pretends to be one thing, but really has ulterior motives. There is pride and the belief that My country is better than yours. There is hatred and predjudice. And it is rarely…[Read more]

Quote Hi david,And how important that the gospel they hear is the correct one and not a denominationally skewed one. Right, that's why we must look to the time before the skewing began.I believe the early Christians understood the meaning of Jesus words and acted on them correctly. I believe the skewing or twisting of words, and falling away from…[Read more]

Quote Hi david,The fruit of Tertullian would have to be considered suspect. Fine, throw his quote out.This does not change the fact that the early Christians, who were true Christians, refused to engage in military actions even if it meant their own death.

Quote Nice try but I believe that the bible is inspired.I also believe the Bible is inspired. That's why I go to people and talk to them about the Bible. I am following Jesus command, to “Go.” Ironically, people often accuse me of not believing in Jesus (I guess because we don't believe in the trinity), and yet it is because of his command that…[Read more]