A while ago, you said:Quote Angels are of heaven and are designed to be as servants and messengers of God.Yes, they are of heaven but “forsook their proper dwelling place,” heaven. They are designed to be servants of God, but some of them “sinned,” the Bible says. Anyway, Heiscoming, I'm wondering if you looked at my reasoning from the…[Read more]

I'm pretty much done saying what I have to say. But thanks.

: “The sons of the true God began to notice the daughters of men, that they were good-looking; and they went taking wives for themselves, namely, all whom they chose. . . . The Nephilim proved to be in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of the true God continued to have relations with the daughters of men and they bore s…[Read more]

Quote Hi david,The hurling down of Satan from his continued accepted place in heaven, along with 1\3 of the angels is only an endtime events as shown in Revelation. Satan had wandered the earth, where he had assumed squatters ruling rights, till God was ready to deal with him and to his evil agents.Why oh why does Satan have what are called…[Read more]

Quote They are the spirits of progeny of the sons of Godand their sexual relationships with women. Ok, so what about the angels that forsook their proper dwelling place?2 PETER 2:4“Certainly if God did not hold back from punishing the angels that sinned, but, by throwing them into Tar´ta·rus, delivered them to pits of dense darkness to be res…[Read more]

Quote Only in Enoch will you find the supposed origin of demons and they are not angels.What's Enoch? Is that the book before Hezekiah?Ok, then why does the Bible say that Satan and “his angels” were hurled down to the earth?Oh, I see. The demons were the nephilim. Now I understand what you think.

“The sons of the true God began to notice the daughters of men, that they were good-looking; and they went taking wives for themselves, namely, all whom they chose.” (Genesis 6:2) With the flood, they did not drown. They put aside their fleshly bodies and returned to heaven as spirit persons. But they were not allowed to become part of God…[Read more]

The Christian disciple Jude wrote about them when he mentioned “the angels that did not keep their original position but forsook their own proper dwelling place.” (Jude 6) These were the angels that forsook their proper dwelling place and really, forsook God. They became known as demons. But these wicked spirits were angels. And can still be…[Read more]

REVELATION 12:9“So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his ANGELS were hurled down with him.”Nick, it appears that demons are just bad angels.

Quote So at the resurrection some men will go to heaven?Only those 'granted immortality' go to heaven?They will be priests, judges and rulers in heaven?Whom will they rule over, judge and minister to there?This does not include the great men of God of the OT?So we will have a divided destiny, some here, some there?The rest will have a sort of…[Read more]

ok, some simple questions: Who is Satan? Where did he come from?Where did the demons come from? Where they created as demons by God? Or did they choose the wrong course?I was under the impression that Satan was an angel who decided to rebel. Today, he tries to appear as an “angel of light,” (2 cor 11;14) but of course he is really an angel of…[Read more]

Quote How will God show His wrath to the disobedient ones?They will be cut off from life. They will be found undeserving of life and it will be taken from them. Jehovah is not a sadistic unjust God who burns people for all time for the sins of a few years on earth. Such a thought is uncompatible with his character. We are to be like him,…[Read more]

God’s angels are shown to be mortal, despite their possessing spirit bodies, not carnal ones. Angelic mortality is evident in view of the judgment of death entered against the spirit son who became God’s Adversary, or Satan, and also against those other angels who followed that satanic course and “did not keep their original position but forso…[Read more]

Quote Hi david,Paul reasoned from the scriptures. The basis of his reasoning was the proven Word of God. He did not reason from logic alone apart from scripture. And I'm reasoning on Jeremiah 7. That's a scripture isn't it Nick? Yes, it is. I'm using what that SCRIPTURE says to reason. Therefore, I'm reasoning on the scriptures. If that…[Read more]

Quote The earth is YHWH's and all the fullness thereof. Partake of that which belongs to your FatherYes, the earth is rightfully Yahweh's. Yet, he is allowing wickedness and suffering and letting Satan rule the world for a time as you say. Are we to “partake” of everything we see in the earth? Violence, evil, wickedness? The question was…[Read more]

Quote He appeals to reason which is a poor substitute for scripture. Would you say the same to Paul?ACTS 17:2-3“So according to Paul’s custom he went inside to them, and for three sabbaths he REASONED WITH THEM FROM THE SCRIPTURES, explaining and proving by references that it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead, and…[Read more]

Quote To point out the obvious:That is what the Watchtower says, but what does the Spirit say?The spirit says to 'abstain from blood,' T8. And, it gives God's thinking on this throughout the Hebrew scriptures.Quote If you are a good JW, I know that you will only parrot off their stuff and not venture beyond that. Nick asked what Jehovah's…[Read more]

Quote Hi David,Hold on there! Are they “paying homage to him,” or “ giving obeisance to him”.Do they really adore him?This is not an argument and doesn’t have any weight. No, they weren't adoring him. They were spitting on him, hitting him on his head. Clearly, they weren't paying homage to him or worshipping him. They were bowing down to him…[Read more]

This is not a question, but just an interesting description:“I will never finish reading this book in my lifetime. It begins by having a beautiful home destroyed in rebellion. Tragedy, disaster, sorrow, murder and death follow. As the family multiplies, the plunge into despair and darkness accelerates. Centuries roll by, nations rise and f…[Read more]

“God is love,” isn't He?Heiscoming, some questions I'd like you to ponder:1.–What does Jeremiah 7:31 say? (Also Jer 32:35; 19:5)Jeremiah 7:31 (King James Version)”And they have built the high places of Tophet, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded them not, neither came…[Read more]