Quote I agree that angel means messenger.Angels are also called sons of God as we are.–t8Nick, t8 says that “angel” means “messenger.”Angels are also called sons of God, as we are. But we are not spirit creatures. Both Jesus and the angels are sons of God. Both have spirit bodies. If that word that is translated “messenger” or “angel” were to…[Read more]

Quote I believe that Jesus was the angel of lord WHAT? YOU DARE CALL JESUS AN ANGEL! Just kidding, Mercy.Quote My disagreement is that he is Michael the Archangel. Well, yes, the book of enoch. I understand why you would think that.Quote Michael is one of the four archangels before the throne, one of the four archangels that ezekiel…[Read more]

Quote Hi david,Your are crossing lines of privacy here. Sorry Nick. I didn't know you were actually sensitive about this. Sorry.

Nick, if we were discussing the “trinity folly”, you would have by now showed me 100 scriptures which refute that idea. So far, I'm the one with the scriptures.You're the one that can only keep saying: “you're wrong,” and cannot carry a conversation. HOw many questions have I asked in in the past 30 posts? 50? A lot of these questions were…[Read more]

Quote Nick, I think it was I who first said you were elderly. You are in your sixties, right? Maybe that's not elderly to you.I was simply throwing that in, because maybe you did something and forgot. Not that elderly ones are forgetful. We are all human. I was just raising that possibility in an attempt to make this go away.Quote Hi…[Read more]

Quote David, please forgive me for using the information you gave me of Nick's age and Nick, please don't hold that against him.Sorry Nick. I didn't think or remember thinking that your age was some big secret. It isn't, is it? Wisdom comes with grey headedness.Quote The thing is Nick, you are the only one on this forum who has yet to admit…[Read more]

Quote No, that is not what I am asking. I want to know more about what you have presented as fact here.Perhaps you can show us your sources so we can find out for ourselves if you do not have the information at hand. If attending the local mormon church made me live longer would I be better off?And the other question was whether you felt health…[Read more]

Nick, I think it was I who first said you were elderly. You are in your sixties, right? Maybe that's not elderly to you.I was simply throwing that in, because maybe you did something and forgot. Not that elderly ones are forgetful. We are all human. I was just raising that possibility in an attempt to make this go away.

Quote It is not written that Jesus is an angel of any kind. Nick,you really have no idea what the word “angel” means, then, do you?Please tell us what angel means. Please don't ignore this post as you have the others, simply to repeat your attempt to make it out like I am making this up and it has no base in scripture whatsoever.What does the…[Read more]

Quote It could mean he is coming to earth as a warrior this time instead of a babe and a suffering servant. The analogy used is “shout of the archangel”.Like “roar of a lion”, “warcry of the eagle”, “with a thunderous voice”Allegory is just as likely as a canidate.Yes Mercy. I've considered that. But as I said in point 6, If Jesus is not the…[Read more]

1 Thess 4 says that Jesus comes with a commanding call, with the voice of an archangel, and the dead rise.If you're uncertain about the above verse, other scriptures clarify Nick:John 5 says that the dead hear the voice of Jesus and come to life.I'm not speculating that these are the same. They must be. Even these two scriptures make that plain.…[Read more]

Quote If you have not looked at it how do you know if it is just legend and not inspired writ?I've read about half of it (it's somewhere on this site) and skimmed the rest on this website. I have my comments on it in the Enoch thread.Quote If it is simply because “You only consider the western protestant canon scriptures” then please show me…[Read more]

You clearly didn't read my post. “the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God's trumpet and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first.So in 1 thessalonians, its the archangel's voice, but in John 5, it is the voice of the Son of God!Jesus’ words:““Most truly I say to YOU,…[Read more]

OK, Nick, different idea.Let's do that. Let'd discuss the Word of God. Let's start with some interesting scriptures. There are about 60 of them in the post above. Let's look at one of them, to begin:POINT 6JESUS CALLS OUT WITH AN ARCHANGELS VOICE.Commenting on one aspect of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, Apostle Paul wrote:”because the…[Read more]

HI RoBYN,You state:Quote Remember when Jesus said to Peter..”You are ‘Rock,’ and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” ?Matt. 16:18, JB: “I now say to you: You are Peter and on this rock I will build my Church. And the gates of the underworld can never hold out against it.” Robyn, Notice in the…[Read more]

Nick, if I am wrong in those points I listed, why not simply show me, out of love?

Quote Hi david,Surely you do not rateLOGICor REASONor MYTHSand LEGENDSor OLD WIVES TALESas being EQUAL in validityTo the Word of God, the teachings of Jesus? Of course not. That's why I quickly dismiss your idea of multiple archangels based on your beloved book of Enoch. I would rate that book in the possible “legends” or “old wives tales” class…[Read more]

The following statements are true:”Jack went into the red house and met a man.Jamie was alone in the red house at that time.”Nick, who did Jack meet?–Although it doesn't specifically say, reason and logic tell us that Jack met Jamie. –Further, although it doesn't tell us specifically, we know Jamie is a man.Logic and the ability to reason on…[Read more]

2 JOHN 9“Everyone that pushes ahead and does not remain in the teaching of the Christ does not have God. He that does remain in this teaching is the one that has both the Father and the Son.”Well that doesn't say anything about Jesus not being Michael. It says to remain in the teaching of Christ. We are trying to determine if my belief abo…[Read more]

H, I tried to reply to your PM three times. Maybe this will work:Part of the problem is, H, I don't really know what Nick did or didn't do. Yes, he posted your PM, but as a few have stated, you said you only kept it private for Nick's sake. So, while he maybe shouldn't have done that, it seems you were only helping Nick out by keeping it…[Read more]