Quote Do you not know that the Kingdom is also within you? Nick, you said this above.When Jesus said to the SCRIBES AND PHARASEES, people he condemned as serpents and offspring of vipers, and spoke of them having trouble fleeing the judgement of gehenna…when he said to THESE PEOPLE that the kingdom of God was among them, or in their midst, or as…[Read more]

Hi Adam, I don't believe this is the right thread for this, but I wonder what you think of:1 PETER 3:18“Why, even Christ died once for all time concerning sins, a righteous for unrighteous ones, that he might lead YOU to God, he being put to death in the flesh, but being made alive in the spirit.”1 CORINTHIANS 15:45“It is even so written: “The…[Read more]

On what adam says above, does anyone on here hold to what he says?

Something that I was just considering while reading the “angel of the lord' thread:“Have you set your heart upon my servant Job, that there is no one like him in the earth, a man blameless and upright,”Job was unique. No question. Jehovah himself said that there was “no one like him in all the earth.”Maybe, similarly, THERE IS NO ONE LIKE JES…[Read more]

Quote Jesus is the unique Son of GodWhat makes him unique? Was he only unique after being born of a virgin and his incarnation? Was he only unique after his baptism?I think we both believe he was unique before all this? Something or someone can be unique without having to be a completely different entity.Mercy, here's something to…[Read more]

Nick, what's your definition of angels? What are they exactly? Simply put, what are they? We know they're not human, for example. We know they're spirit creatures, being created, not through conception, but created individually. We know they had a beginning. We know they are powerful, even being called “gods.” We know they are spirit…[Read more]

Quote Jesus could not be the Angel of the Lord in the OT;1) Because he is a human being NOT an angelic being2) And as such he was not even conceived/begotten yet at the time of the OTQuote Jesus was & ever will be a human beingAnd he's a human being right now? With flesh I presume? Quick question Adam, that no one on here answers. You…[Read more]

Quote I read through Hebrews chapter 1 very carefully. I have always considered it pretty obvious that Jesus was distinguished as different than the angels. If you just insert the word “other” between “the” and “angels,” Hebrews 1 would still make sense. It is just as plausible as the other way to look at it.I too have always considered it…[Read more]

Quote Hi Mercy,Do you believe these things because you have found them written or just because you believe them? Perhaps he believes them because he has what the Bible calls the “power of reason” and “soundness of mind” and all evidence seems to point in that one inescapable direction. It is not directly stated. But then again, Jehovah's Wisdom,…[Read more]

Quote Hi david,So what has this to do with Michael and any other angel you care to name,and Jesus Christ obviously existing as separate beings?Scripture never says all things have been put by God under the feet of Michael does it?I'll simplify it for you if I can.You stated, somewhat shockingly to me, that Jesus isn't created, because he created…[Read more]

Quote Hi ws2Jesus is the Firstborn of creation, but since all creation came through him he cannot be created and thus part of the work done through him can he? Look up Nick. Way up. When all those other scriptures said that God subjected “all things” under Jesus feet, there was an obvious exception–God himself, and of course Jesus too.…[Read more]

Quote I think it had a lot more to do with the total lack of credible scriptural evidence to draw upon in support of the two assertions. No. You're wrong on this too, Is 1:18. Why do YOU get to decide precicely how many subjects we can discuss and the order of rebuttels. You asked for 2 points. I gave you 3, all connected to one scripture.…[Read more]

Quote Hi David,Getting ready to go to Disney world yet?I keep pushing it off. We are now planning on going next winter, not this one. Why do you ask?

What is greater than God, and more evil than the devil? What do the poor have and the rich need?I googled or looked up “nothing” on the internet.Do you know what I found? Nothing.I found what I was looking for and I found lots of it.I didn’t expect to find anything. I expected to find nothing.And I did. The internet has everything, inclu…[Read more]

1 CORINTHIANS 15:27“For “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that it is with the exception of the one who subjected all things to him.”Quote It seems evident to me that the words “thing” or “things” are used by Biblical writers in reference to the created order. I don't…[Read more]

Quote I stand corrected, “leary” is in fact a word:That's ok Is 1:18. We all make mistakes. You stand corrected. You had stated:“But God is not a created “thing” therefore does not qualify as an exception.”And yet that scripture itself says that God is the exception. How odd.Also, I didn't say God was a created thing. In the most vague sense…[Read more]

Quote I don't personally speak in tongues…. My mother does and so do many friends of mine. Quote My understanding is that the gift is divided between these two functions:1) A supernatural ability to be heard and understood while speaking in a real world language by someone whom you normally could not speak with. Like in Acts chapter 2.So, I'll…[Read more]

Quote David, as I said – If God were a “thing” you would have a legitimate point here. But God is not created “thing” therefore does not qualify as an exception. There is no debate here….I agree. There is no debate. As this scripture proves you wrong without question:1 CORINTHIANS 15:27“For “subjected all things under his feet.” But when…[Read more]

Quote But he is called an angel isn't he?Hi t8. Did you just admit that Jesus is called an angel?As for your comments on speculation, I should note that JW's themselves in their publications often say things like: “it's logical to conclude that,” or “scriptures point to” or “scriptural evidence indicates.” They have also pointed out that nowhere…[Read more]

Quote I feel that archaeology and tradition merge to show us that both methods were used at the time. I agree.So apparently, we have two ways of determining which was used. What the Bible says. And what archaelogy shows. I believe the Bible is stronger evidence as crosses have always and are always being found everwhere, including the moon.…[Read more]