In Canada, JW's used to have to sign a piece of paper saying they wouldn't hold the hospital liable because of not using blood.Now, interestingly, people have to sign a piece of paper saying they won't hold the hospital liable when they do use blood.Nick, do you know the stats on those who die from complications due to tainted blood?ACTS…[Read more]

Mercy, which thread was it in where you were talking about Jesus having “companions” or “partners” (Heb 1:9) There was a thread where you were speaking about this. I can't find it.

How happy we are not to have a morbid fear of a cruel God that totures his enemies for all time, but rather, we see God's sense of justice in his destruction of the wicked and his love for his servants who will not have to contend with the wicked for all time.

Quite so Kenrch. Those who believe that Jehovah burns people alive forever for the sins of a few years know neither God, nor his lover, nor his justice, nor the Bible.1.–What does Jeremiah 7:31 say? (Also Jer 32:35; 19:5)–What does Jeremiah 7:31 tell us about Jehovah?–How does that thought about Jehovah at Jeremiah 7:31 compare to the…[Read more]

Quote THE BELOW YOU HAD NOTHING TO SAY?YOU SAID:”Next think about this: There are 200 years from this little flock being a literal 144,000 (we are also in agreement) and the witnesses that believe they are the elect of the remnant spoken of here think they are of this small number when nineteen hundred years have gone by, but for some reason God…[Read more]

Quote Hi David,Give me a verse that states that Jesus and Michael are one and the same and i'll certainly consider it….There must be one….right?It's right before the verse that says: “God is a trinity.” Isn't that Hezekiah something?

And since Is 1:18 is blinded by the Jesus is God Almighty belief, it's impossible for his eyes to even contemplate those scriptures I mentioned and he can only dismiss them.

Quote “My “religion” sir? I hold that Christianity is the correct “religion” sir. . . . I am an Evangelical who believes in the annihilation of the soul. . . .I hold to the Five Points of Calvin – TULIP”Good, thankyou Casey. Now we all know who we are. I looked up TULIP, as I was unaware of it:Total Depravity (also known as Total Inability and…[Read more]

Quote Hi David….finally got to this, sorry it's taken a while. Well to be honest with you David there is nothing much to rebut. I see no real evidence in what you have submitted (cut and pasted), that lends credibility to the assertion that Jesus and MTA are the same person. The plain truth is there is nothing in the grammar or context of 1…[Read more]

Sultan, Hi.YOu say:Quote Doesn't Jesus tell the apostles that they will have thrones to judge from? Nowhere in scripture are they told that they will be part of the 144,000. You are right that the number of those who would judge wasn't revealed except in Revelation, a word I think means “revealed.”So ya, we have those in the gospels who are told…[Read more]

HI Casey. I”m sorry if some of the below comes off as being direct or rough. But it seems you aren't really trying to figure things out, but are attempting to discredit JW's regardless of what is true. Quote “How would such a work get accomplished without an oversight…”Which One David? How do you know yours is right?Is your religion “right”…[Read more]

Quote But scripture uses the word “virgin” in a different sense. It is to do with faithfullness in the same way as God regards idolatry as adultery.Yes, Paul, Peter, “the apostles,” weren't literal virgins. Most were married.

Hi Casey.You have previously stated:Sept 27“The 144,000 nowhere imply any heavenly realm of Jehovah's Witnesses but speak of 12000 from each tribe of Israel.”Sept 28“The 144,000 not at all having ANYTHING to due with the “elect” of God. WE are the priests and kings, not a mere select few.”Oct 3“The 144,000 in Revelation. I do not see where . .…[Read more]

Quote There are some foolish comments made their:QuoteHaving a Ph.D. after your name doesn't give you translation skills; it is some of the work you presumably did in the process of earning that Ph.D. that may give you translation skills.How absurd! If you have a Ph.D. in textual criticism or in Greek, Hebrew, Latin…etc.etc. It most CERTAINLY…[Read more]

Quote PS:QuoteSo you can't really say Jesus is to be worshipped. You CAN say that your trinitarian biased Bible says that he is worshipped. But, you should consider the Bible as a whole and understand what those words mean before attempting to make such a claim.That is unfair sir. Why did the JW's need to come out with the NWT if they were…[Read more]

Quote I think that is a huge problem I have with the Watchtower. Jehovah's Name is used billions of times (to disdain and in vain I must say) in many of their meetings but Jesus is hardly ever mentioned. This is just untrue. I would say Jehovah is mentioned just slightly more. Actually, I just checked. In the past 50 years, the word “Jehovah”…[Read more]

Hi Casey. No one has ever really called me “sir” before. It makes me wonder where you're from, or if you think I'm elderly.david

Yes, we have one Lord, Nick.Nick, how was the early congregation set up?

Just following the example of the earliest Christians Nick. I know you're anti-organization Nick. But God is organized and his people are too. His people have always been organized. He is a God of order.You can't expect people to go around, each and every “Christian” believing his own individual beliefs, doing 'his own thing.' That's not very…[Read more]

HI CASEY,on page 12 of this thread, I made some comments on “worshipping” Jesus. I'm wondering what your thoughts are on what I wrote?david