First, I'd like to ask if anyone else is having difficulty with this site? Perhaps it's just my computer. Often I try to open a thread and all I get is a blank page. Quote Hi David, I did in fact answer this question from you several pages back. Here it is again…. Thanks Oxy.So, I take it from this that you consider that to be a “born again”…[Read more]

Hi Nine. You write:Quote David, when I share my understanding of scripture or doctrine, it is not to bash JWs or anyone else. My purpose is to seek unity with all who profess to be Christians so that people will want to join us in serving God. I am glad that you have a zeal for God and are searching into the Bible. I'm not sure that 'seeking…[Read more]

Quote Yeshua was laid in a manger. The manger is simply a feeding trough not a stable.Sorry. You're right. I”ve corrected other people on this so many times. It's just at Christmas time we are fed these things in songs in malls and on the radio and everwhere until they stick in our head.Quote Yeshua was laid in a manger. The manger is simply a…[Read more]

Casey, I remember you recently saying things haven't been going that well for you or that you were stressed or something like that. I forgot to ask you about this.dave

Before answering your question, Oxy, I have a question:Do you know what it means to be born again and why some must be born again?I know you think you are born again. But something I consider to be an unescapable fact:NOT ALL WHO THINK THEY ARE BORN AGAIN AREMany religious teachers have indiscriminately used the “born again” and “once saved…[Read more]

Quote Wow David that quick lapse kingdom hall build was great! I have never seen that many number of people building a structure asside for an office building or skyscraper. How you got them all to chip in is beyond meWe paid them Casey and we paid them a lot!Just kidding, of course. They all worked without pay for free, and with one common…[Read more]

Quote You last line of:QuoteBut on later more indept thinking and reasoning on the scriptures, it became obvious by Jesus own words that worship should be directed towards only his Father…bothers me somewhat. Should we change the Greek (if the Greek says one word) to fit our thinking? The Greek was not changed. I believe the English word was…[Read more]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA6G1hqayiMThis is a quick build of a kingdom hall in time lapse. I post this only because we had been talking about it a few days ago.david.

I wasn't doing that to make you feel better Casy, but I hope it did. It will probably confuse you as well.david

Quote Ok guys let's try this again. I mean getting this darn quoting thing down. I feel like a big dork. I think we all feel that way when we tried it for the first time. I know I did.I have to say when one has an “axe to grind” with the witnesses, more times than not it is all heresay and coming from one who was disfellowshipped. I agree. You…[Read more]

Are you still there worshipping Jesus?I have to go.Talk to you later.

Quote Hey David how about accepting what God the Father says!!I do. I just think something is lost in the translation.That's why it's good to not just accept how Bible translators choose to translate certain words. Bible translators are imperfect and not inspired. They can fall to bias. Looking at certain verses where they've inserted…[Read more]

Quote Oh I see David so as long as you translate the same Greek word to fit your belief as a unitarian then that makes it right!No, W, as long as it fits the context of the Bible as a whole.

Quote If Jesus knew that the word meant different things, which Im quite sure that he did, then why would he not use another greek word for the worship of the Father?He used that word that can and does mean worship, but what you ignore is that it can and does mean a lot of other things as well.Which word would he have used?Quote Better yet why…[Read more]

1 CORINTHIANS 15:27-28“For “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that it is with the exception of the one who subjected all things to him. But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to…[Read more]

Hi WorshippingJesus,Quote Show me David where Jesus was worshipped that he discouraged it and pointed to the Father.That's my point. We can't be sure that Jesus was ever worshipped in scripture. The word used with reference to him is “proskyneo.”That word, my friend, has a variety of meanings, one of which is “to worship,” others of which are…[Read more]

Quote It is rarely taught when a witness comes over that they speak of following Jesus. Jesus is bypassed too often. I am not saying they do not ALWAYS speak of Jehovah only and not mentioning His Son but it seems that His Son is put on a back-burner when the opposite is true all through the NT. The common thread that goes from Genesis in the…[Read more]

HI Casey,Quote “Having said that, when a member of the kingdom halls sins and they repent, are they allowed back in? I haven't found any Scriptural support for any sin worthy of being “too” far from God's Grace and being kicked out of the Church. I am not assuming kingdom halls do but I am curious about that.”Well, sinning against the holy spi…[Read more]

When you press the quote button, make sure that anything you paste in next goes after that. Also, I don't think you can go into the middle of text you've already typed and add quotes later. That tends to mess me up. It works for me only when I just press the quote, or bold or whatever and then type or paste and then press the quote again and…[Read more]

Quote Probably most or much of the flocks income goes into keeping this and buying new stuff when there is expansion.I don't know about other faiths, but this does not apply to JW's at all.Quote In the first century many churches were in homes that I assume some were owned. The point I am making is that denominations have all these buildings,…[Read more]