Quote Hi david,The sea divides man into countries and peoples and frustrates easy travel. Christ unifies the earth.So you're saying there will literally be no sea in the future. When Adam and Eve were told to multiply and fill the earth, while living in paradise conditions, there were seas, and oceans, were there not?

“Here I am creating new heavens and a new earth; and the former things will not be called to mind, neither will they come up into the heart.” (Isaiah 65:17)I'm not sure how you take this scripture, but I believe that this prophecy was initially fulfilled when the Jewish remnant was restored to Jerusalem. What constituted the “new heavens” at that…[Read more]

Yes, foolish people lacking faith is one way that the waves of the sea. But in the other scriptures, the masses of mankind that seem to be alienated from God are also represented by the sea.We know wicked people will be done away with.Rev says the sea will be no more.Does that mean that the meek who inherit the earth will have no more seas to look at?

Quote Hi david,No. But show me it does and I will be convinced- in the earth thread.. Sorry, I got this after I posted. You're right. This is the wrong thread. I think we've had this conversation before though.

Isaiah likened the wicked people of earth, the masses alienated from God, to “the sea that is being tossed, when it is unable to calm down, the waters of which keep tossing up seaweed and mire.” (Isa 57:20) At Revelation 17:1, 15 the “waters” on which Babylon the Great “sits” are said to mean “peoples and crowds and nations and tongues.” Isa…[Read more]

Doesn't “the sea” often represent wicked people in the Bible?

Is not what makes the earth a new earth primarily the removal of the wicked. It will be a completely different place because the people on it will be different. It will be a new earth, not because Jehovah replaced it.The new moon, isn't a new different moon, it's a new phase of the moon.I think what makes the earth a new earth is the people.As I…[Read more]

Quote It may seem so to you but where else are men called heaven and earth in scripture??Do you suggest that God is going to destroy and replace this earth with a new earth, or heaven, with a new heaven?I don't know. What do you make of the initial fulfillment of these scriptures?(Is 65:17; 66:22)

We should give thanks every day, for all God has given.

2 PETER 3:13“But there are new heavens AND a new earth that we are awaiting according to his promise, and in these righteousness is to dwell.”(Compare Rev 21:1; Is 65:17; 66:22)The heavens often represent or are associated with rulership. (Dan 4:26; Acts 7:49) The “new heavens” is the Kingdom for which Jesus taught us to pray. (Matthew 6:10) S…[Read more]

Refering to JW’s, Casey states:You will scratch your head and want to scream at the screen and go, “OPEN YOUR EYES!!!” but they can't hear you. But,we don't give up. We never give up.Casey, a page earlier: “Oxy give it up on David.”I would love to believe that Casey actually had some part of him that wanted to show me truth. The lies keep getti…[Read more]

Casey, has said on this thread:“Before I have had these discussions with you some of the propoganda I believed.” I just don't want anyone to believe his propaganda.“Witnesses get a bad rap . . .unfounded most of the time. . . .They hear rumors about JW's and they will not investigate those claims.”Follow Casey's advice and investigate and…[Read more]

“YOU are from YOUR father the Devil, and YOU wish to do the desires of YOUR father. That one was a manslayer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of . Because I, on the other hand, tell the truth, Y…[Read more]

I am curious to know what people think of this:I'm curious to know what people think of this:”Yule, the winter solstice, is a festival of peace and a celebration of waxing solar light. I honor the new sun child by burning a oaken yule log in a sacred fire. I honor the great goddess in her many great mother aspects, and the father god as Santa in…[Read more]

I had decided not to respond to Casey after his string of lies, but after this post, I will not even read anything Casey has to say.Giving any more time to Casey would only seem to support his fallacious lies.And I no longer have any problems using that word with reference to what Casey is doing.Everything I have said he would do, he has. Instead…[Read more]

Can we worship and honour God by involving ourselves with customs and traditions, which God himself forbade as idolatry? Can we convince God to somehow “Christianize” these customs and the whole pretense and lie of Christmas, so we can enjoy ourselves?Can we obey through disobedience?The word “Christmas” is a combination of the words “Christ…[Read more]

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIAhttp://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03724b.htm“Christmas was not among the earliest festivals of the Church. Irenaeus and Tertullian omit it from their lists of feasts; Origen, glancing perhaps at the discreditable imperial Natalitia, asserts (in Lev. Hom. viii in Migne, P.G., XII, 495) that in the Scriptures sinners alone, not s…[Read more]

I found the following in a news article dated Nov 20,2006. The news article was on Walmart and how they greet their customers.Wiccan High Priestess Selena Fox stated:“Yule, the winter solstice, is a festival of peace and a celebration of waxing solar light. I honor the new sun child by burning a oaken yule log in a sacred fire. I honor the great…[Read more]

Quote David,Saying something which may be similar to a pagan practice is therefore pagan, is the same as saying a practice similar to something christian is therefore christian. It is the reason for the practice which determines whether it is pagan or of God.Seeking truth, mainly what I am saying is that God saw first hand where these things…[Read more]

Quote In none of the Scriptures above does it say that Scripture is the Word of God. –OxyThis is what I began by saying:Quote Here are some scriptures from the Greek scriptures that have the phrase: word of God. Most of them, like the first, for example, definitely don't refer to the Bible. Nowhere does scripture specifically say that “the…[Read more]