WJ,Quote Well put, but if you look at my post, I am not saying Jesus has power over the Father. I am saying the Father gave him all power and authority in heaven and earth and yes put all things under his feet.So this means that Jesus is equal to the Father not in rank but in Power and Authority.I think you miss my point. It is “evident” that…[Read more]

“The Real Meaning of ChristmasWhat is the Pagan secret that Christianity has tried to keep from you? The truth about Christmas is that it is not Christmas at all. It is the Winter Solstice, a Pagan holy day observed around the world and since time imemorial from the Native American tribes, to the Norsemen, to the ancient Romans, and today by…[Read more]

I just googled: “Wiccan Christmas”The first thing I got was this:The sun is at its nadir, the year's longest night. We internalize and synthesize the outward-directed activities of the previous summer months. Some covens hold a Festival of Light to commemorate the Goddess as Mother giving birth to the Sun God. Others celebrate the victory of the…[Read more]

Quote I am not saying that we should not make changes according to the inner leading of the Spirit.What is useless is making changes without the Spirit in the hope of pleasing God and saving ouselves.Doing things with the hope of pleasing God is a good thing.Only doing something just to save yourself isn't the right attitude, but no one is…[Read more]

Any comment on why you don't think these scriptures apply:1 CORINTHIANS 10:20-22“I say that the things which the nations sacrifice they sacrifice to demons, and not to God, and I do not want you to become sharers with the demons. You cannot be drinking the cup of Jehovah and the cup of demons; you cannot be partaking of ‘the table of Jeh…[Read more]

Quote Well that is what I am saying because your focus on moralism suggests you really believe good morals impress God enough to justify us before Him and to save us. Is that what you do believe? It is you who always mentions being saved when ever I bring things like this up. I don't remember ever bringing anything up about being saved. My…[Read more]

Quote Is it possible to please God in our own behaviours and attitudes? Is that what saves us, plus endurance? Does endurance mean not changing any of those ideas and attitudes? Can we save ourselves then? You keep speaking of saving yourself. Isn't pleasing God more important?

Quote I'll get back to you on that (working on a post to Cubes atm). Although I get the feeling i'm being set up for something….No set up. I just am really only familiar with Catholic trinity doctrine and didn't know there was a difference. Frankly, I'm not sure all the people on here who defend the trinity agree with all the aspects of it, or…[Read more]

Quote Hi david,Does any moral choice have relevance unless we have been saved?Maybe if you're still in Babylon the Great, you haven't been saved. He who endures to the end is the one that WILL be saved. What does have relevence, and perhaps the only thing that has relevence, is pleasing God.

Quote An exact representation.Like a reflection in a mirror is an exact representation?Jesus, who was sent by God was God's representative on earth. And, being that he was with God for untold time, he obvioulsy would know his Father intimately, and could represent him exactly, meaning, represent his thoughts and purposes. Part of my problem…[Read more]

Quote Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 12 2006,22:38)QuoteHi Is 1.18,Is it any surprise that GREATER has many meanings in scripture?God is greater than Jesus surely in terms of power and ability.Tell me NH….How does the Father have more power and ability than Jesus, except in rank, when he has given all power and authority to Jesus?Matt 28:18And…[Read more]

Quote My family and I just had a message from a service on the celebration of pagan holidays. My wife and son decided this halloween they wanted to go to a place like a haunted house or prison. Anyway, they did, I would not go. When they came out, they found the car window had been smashed on the drivers side. Thank the Lord nothing was taken.…[Read more]

Recently, I've learned that there are people on here who denounce the “Catholic” trinity belief, while they have their own trinity belief.I'm wondering what exactly the difference in belief is.Anyone?

Quote You see David, I do not dispute that the Father is greater than the Son – He is – but I do dispute that He is a greater being. In what ways is He greater?Position/rank?david

Quote well for all my faults David – at least the words i've posted tonight are my own. And you're wearing a headband in your avatar, so you must be wrong on everything you say.Doesn't make any sense does it?Neither does your reasoning. If something is true, if you're words are true, and I repeat them, what does that have to do with whether those…[Read more]

Quote 3. Can I find any scripture that says that the Father, Son, and holy spirit are unequal in all ways, such as in eternity, power and wisdom?“The Father is greater than I am.” I take this to mean greater in power, wisdom and since he is the father, greater in age as well. That is what the word “father” means.Quote 2. Can I find any scripture…[Read more]

Quote In other words, do not challenge me I cannot make a defense. So shuddup a ya face or I will get kind mad and start using words like ontological again. I'm still laughing at this one. “ontological.” So true. Just because he's bad at communicating, doens't mean we can't reason with him. I've met very smart people who weren't smart enough…[Read more]

And some more questions:DOES THIS MAKE SENSE?Why, for thousands of years, did none of God’s prophets teach his people about the Trinity? Why did Jesus not use his ability as the Great Teacher to make the Trinity clear to his followers? Why would God inspire hundreds of pages of Scripture and yet not use any of this instruction to teach the T…[Read more]

Some more questions:ASK YOURSELF:1. Can I find any scripture that mentions “Trinity”?2. Can I find any scripture that says that God is made up of three distinct persons, Father, Son, and holy spirit, but that the three are only one God?3. Can I find any scripture that says that the Father, Son, and holy spirit are equal in all ways, such as in ete…[Read more]

Quote A real Christian church will not deny Christ their God.Buster,Perhaps you could provide a name? It seems most have denied Christ when they have become friends with the world and gone off to kill their brothers in wars and when they disregarded his words to show love to one another and to go and make disciples.If you can't provide any…[Read more]