Kerwin,Ask yourself if this seems to describe church as you read. “Thus with a swift pitch will Babylon the great city be hurled down, and she will never be found again. 22 And the sound of singers who accompany themselves on the harp and of musicians and of flutists and of trumpeters will never be heard in you again, and no craftsman of any t…[Read more]

Kerwin,This scripture I think makes it plain. Ask yourself if this seems to describe church as you read. “Thus with a swift pitch will Babylon the great city be hurled down, and she will never be found again. 22 And the sound of singers who accompany themselves on the harp and of musicians and of flutists and of trumpeters will never be heard i…[Read more]

“She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, and she has become a dwelling place of demons and a lurking place of every unclean exhalation and a lurking place of every unclean and hated bird! 3 For because of the wine of the anger of her fornication all the nations have fallen victim, and the kings of the earth committed fornication with her, a…[Read more]

“And the woman whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.”Again, it seems that Babylon isn't a country (a king of the earth) but it seems that Babylon has power or control or a system set up over the kings of the earth.

“The waters that you saw, where the harlot is sitting, mean peoples and crowds and nations and tongues.”Babylon the great, sits on many waters, meaning “nations.” Again, it doesn't seem that this applies to a country to me.

“Babylon the Great, the mother of the harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth.” It seems like religion as a whole has been responsible for the disgusting things of the earth, and not a specific country.

“Come, I will show you the judgment upon the great harlot who sits on many waters, 2 with whom the kings of the earth committed fornication, whereas those who inhabit the earth were made drunk with the wine of her fornication.”We know religion has been entangled and aligned with the kings of the earth. Politicians and kings have always used rel…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 27 2013,09:33)Quote (david @ April 26 2013,13:14)Quote Babylon is a consumer of merchant goods.  It sounds more like a country than anything else. Aren't 1/4 of all purchases done for Christmas (a religious holiday).David,You may be correct but though Christmas might undergo a name change I do not see it being abolished as…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 27 2013,09:33)Quote (david @ April 26 2013,13:14)Quote Babylon is a consumer of merchant goods.  It sounds more like a country than anything else. Aren't 1/4 of all purchases done for Christmas (a religious holiday).David,You may be correct but though Christmas might undergo a name change I do not see it being abolished as…[Read more]

Quote Babylon is a consumer of merchant goods. It sounds more like a country than anything else. Aren't 1/4 of all purchases done for Christmas (a religious holiday).

So, kerwin thinks Babylon the great is a country. (We are to “flee” from Babylon the great. I wonder which country)T8, is he right? And, are you a true teacher or is he?(This has to be one of those basic things that a true teacher would know and teach. We are given the command to “flee” from Babylon, and not to be a part of her if you don't…[Read more]

The science people say there have been 1-4 billion species during earths existence, with about 50 million species existing today.These numbers might be exaggerated.

After seconds of research on a virtually unrelated topic, humans are destroying 100 or 200 species a day so that we can support our way of life. (Yes, this includes the beetles). Maybe 1000 species of beetle lives on a single tree in a rainforest. t8 wants a door for his house so he buys one. He doesn't wait 20 years for a tree to grow but…[Read more]

Beetles represent about 1/4 of all known species today. (They are winning)

Quote (t8 @ April 24 2013,11:50)Quote (david @ April 23 2013,15:24)Even I understand the fallacy with that last post.  This isn't what evolutionarianists 🙂 believe.Hang on there david. They believe that each of these species had their day in the sun. The graphic highlights a point, that Evolutionists must believe that there were millions of…[Read more]

Ed, here is where we are. T8 (and maybe others on here) believe that “true teachers” (or true Christians for that matter) are scattered among denominations–presumably among and inside of these religions. Yet, I wonder how such ones can be “true teachers” and yet support false religion. The proclamation to “come out of Babylon” was given. How…[Read more]

Ed. I was going with what I thought t8 believed Babylon the great to be. (And what I assume most on here believe it is: false religion). I'm examining t8's ideas and using t8's beliefs to do so.

Quote (t8 @ April 25 2013,11:54)Quote (david @ April 23 2013,15:33)Quote So who are these true teachers? Well I don't have a full list of names, but I can assure you that it is not exclusive to any denomination. But granted, it is likely that some denominations will have more true teachers than others. Ultimately though, they are likely scattered…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 17 2013,17:23)Quote (david @ April 15 2013,07:23)Quote I disagree with the teaching of t8 and others though I converse with those Jehovah chooses to put in front of me to converse with.–kerwinDoes this mean that t8 is a false teacher (because he teaches things that are false in your opinion)?Or, is he a true teacher (and yet…[Read more]

Quote So who are these true teachers? Well I don't have a full list of names, but I can assure you that it is not exclusive to any denomination. But granted, it is likely that some denominations will have more true teachers than others. Ultimately though, they are likely scattered around the place.T8, what happened to “get out of Babylon the…[Read more]