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Quote I checked them all. Not once out of all 1336 times is there a mention of any Angel of God with the word “Theos”.And when Jesus quoted from the Hebrew scriptures where he was referring to the angels as gods, which word did he use?Quote Neither is there any example of the word “Theos” ascribed to a living man or king or lord of the most high…[Read more]

This isn't such a strange thing. It happens all the time in real life:Oh, many, many years agoWhen I was twenty-threeI was married to a widowWho was pretty as can beThis widow had a grown-up daughterWho had hair of redMy father fell in love with herAnd soon the two were wedThis made my dad my son-in-lawAnd changed my very lifeFor my daughter was…[Read more]

Quote So please explain what you think “god” means as applied to Jesus.–Tim2Quote As for the meaning of gods when it is applied to these others, I think it . . . rightly ascribes some degree of power to YHWH's angels or human rulers such as Moses and the judges of Israel. –Tim2Quote I agree, that when it is used with reference to anyone, it…[Read more]

So what does the word “God” actually mean, if it can be applied to these others?Quote I really don't see how you can separate God from YHWH.Not sure what that means and I don't want to separate “God” from YHWH any more than I want to separate “human” from you, Tim2.Quote It's the first commandment for crying out loud. You shall have no other…[Read more]

Interesting reading on Heb 1:8:http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/newworldtranslation/hebrews1.8.htmInteresting reading on Heb 1:6:http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/newworldtranslation/hebrews1.6.htmOn “worship” rendering see also:http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/newworl….hip.htm

T8, is it possible that Cult Buster is a computer program?

Quote The word God is used first and foremost with respect to YHWH. Its principal meaning is YHWH.Why do you keep saying that the “meaning” of “God” is YHWH.IT IS CERTAINLY WITHOUT QUESTION NOT ALWAYS THE MEANING, AND THEREFORE, not the meaning.YHWH is most often the one being spoken of with reference to that word, but as it is certainly not true…[Read more]

Quote Jesus is Jehovah. He's the one who's name we call on to be saved. Romans 10:13. Who is? This scripture is of course a quote from the Hebrew scriptures where Jehovah's name occurs. “Everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved,” as it is written in the scriptures.(Genesis 2:24) “That is why a man will leave his father and h…[Read more]

Quote For that matter, YHWH needed someone else to create creation?Does a king build his own temples? Did Solomon? Perhaps he doesn't “need” to do so.

Quote And again David, you really believe that YHWH needs someone else to save creation?What I really believe is that Jehovah used his son to accomplish his purpose, his will. I believe that Jesus was the second Adam, the “corresponding ransom” Jesus being a perfect human who “BECAME flesh.”Jehovah God Almighty would not have been a corresponding…[Read more]

Quote I agree that human rulers are often called gods in the Old Testament, but, correct me if I'm wrong, you are not saying that Jesus is just a human ruler, are you? Of course not. I'm only trying to repeatedly say and perhaps get you to first acknowledge that the word “god” is applied to these other ones.You have just done this.Now for step…[Read more]

Quote Jesus is Jehovah.So you've been lead to believe.Jesus is Jehovah's “son.”The Bible says this hundreds of times. Hundreds.Question: How do you feel about logic and normal ways of thinking?

Quote Paul also tells us the relationship in Titus 2:13 -“our great God and Saviour, Jesus Christ.” Isaiah 43:11 says there is no saviour besides YHWH. But Jesus is our saviour. Jesus is YHWH.You seemed to completely miss Jude 25. Let me restate it:“God, our Savior THROUGH Jesus Christ our Lord.” (See also Acts 13:23.) This scripture EXP…[Read more]

Tim2, you often seem to ignore my questions.Quote (John 10:34-35) “Jesus answered them: “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said: “YOU are gods”’? 35 If he called ‘gods’ those against whom the word of God came, and yet the Scripture cannot be nullified,”I ask you, were these ones gods? Can the scripture be nullified?Obviously the dictionaries defi…[Read more]

Quote “I am the first and the last” has a context? Good grief. YHWH is the first and the last. For anyone else to claim to be the first and the last is blasphemy. So if I said I am the first and the last to respond to your comments, that is blasphemy?Obviously, Jehovah being king of eternity is the first and the last by right of his Godship.If…[Read more]

6E “Of the Great God and of Savior of Us, Christ Jesus”Tit 2:13—Gr., τοῦ μεγάλου θεοῦ καὶ σωτῆρος ἡμῶν Χριστοῦ ᾿Ιησοῦ(tou me·ga′lou The·ou′ kai so·te′ros he·mon′ Khri·stou′ I·e·sou′)1934 “of the great God and of our The Riverside New Savior Christ Jesus” Testament,Boston and New York.193…[Read more]

Just thinking to myself.IF death is the last enemy that is to be thrown into the lake of fire the second death, then death will be destroyed. (If it's not to be destroyed then what is the purpose of throwing death into this lake?)And if death is destroyed, then there will be no more dead.There will be no dead, so there can be no dead people being…[Read more]

Quote Our God is Jesus. John 20:28. Why deny what Scripture says?About 250 times or so, “our God” in the Bible is Jehovah or the Father.Should not our God be Jehovah, as indicated in scripture hundreds of times?

Quote And your other created god calls himself, “The first and the last.” Right and in each case it is explained in what sense he is first and last. Please see the Alpha and Omega thread.Quote I'm sorry, but this is blatant polytheism and a violation of the first commandment.If you define polytheism as the worship of many gods, as some…[Read more]