In addition to being a servant of God, here are some other interesting ways that Jesus is related:Jesus is a servant of God. (Acts 3:13)Jesus prays to God. (John 17:1-3)Jesus has faith in God. (Hebrews 2:17,18 Hebrews 3:2)Jesus does not know things God knows. (Mark 13:32 Revelation 1:1)Jesus worships God. (John 4:22)Jesus has one who is God to…[Read more]

Quote You yourself argues that the word “Theos” and “Elohim” can mean rulers and judges and angels. Which are no gods at all.Do you think that Yeshua would be calling men gods and putting them in the same class as the Father and Yeshua?I never said that Elohim “means” rulers, judges etc. I said that this word is used with reference to them. They…[Read more]

Several denominations within Mormonism (including the largest, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) accept the divinity of Jesus, but believe the three persons of the Trinity to be separate. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints specifically holds that the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are three separate and distinct…[Read more]

Quote 60 Times the word “Proskuneo” is used in the New Testament as follows…Quote To YeshuaMatt 2:2, 2:8, 2:11, 8:2, 9:18, 14:33, 15:25, 18:26, 20:20, 28:9, 28:17, MarK 5:6, 15:19, Lk 24:52, Jn 9:38, Heb 1:6, 15:4, Quote So I say again that there is no place where “Proskuneo” is used in true worship except to the Father and Yeshua.Are all these…[Read more]

Tim, could you do me a favor and read Adam's link?It mentions many things that we cannot block out of our minds when considering this.The Hebrew word for worship, shachah – Strong's 7812, is used more often in the OT (the Hebrew Bible), in regards to men, than it is used in regards to Almighty GOD!! The KJV/Bible translators obscured this fact by…[Read more]

Quote Hi CO,So no lake of fire for him then. What of the tale in Revelation about his sticky end? That's a very clever point I hadn't thought of. Why would God create Satan as evil and then punish him for being evil? Utterly illogical, hey Nick?A criminal is not born a criminal. He becomes one. Satan (opposer; Resister) the Devil (slanderer)…[Read more]

What is the meaning of the ‘eternal torment’ referred to in Revelation?Rev. 14:9-11; 20:10It is noteworthy that at Revelation 11:10 (KJ) reference is made to ‘prophets that torment those dwelling on the earth.’ Such torment results from humiliating exposure by the messages that these prophets proclaim. At Revelation 14:9-11 (KJ) worshipers of the…[Read more]

Quote And if you bring up the straw how the soldiers mocked him using the word to say that proves it wasnt true worship to Yeshua in every other case, then you should also say that it is not true worship to the Father that he is speaking of then.No, I don't have to come to that conclusion. It has been proven and accepted even by Tim2 that…[Read more]

Quote So again your NWT is faulty and without credibility.I'm not sure what this specific fallacy is called. (I could find it if I really wanted to,) but your conclusion above is in no way connected to the rest of what you said. Out of nowhere, you just decide to say this, as if it's some slam.

Quote You yourself argues that the word “Theos” and “Elohim” can mean rulers and judges and angels. Which are no gods at all.When the Bible speaks of ones as being “no gods” at all, it isn't really speaking of the rulers, judges or angels:(Jeremiah 2:11) “Has a nation exchanged gods, even for those that are no gods? But my own people have e…[Read more]

Quote Luk 4:2 (Jesus) Being forty days tempted of the devil.Luk 4:12 And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.Who was being tempted here? Jesus; The Lord thy GodCB, you tend to list strings of thought that are twisted. This is one example. Interestingly, you are one of the few who use the name…[Read more]

And Paul used his God given ability to reason to explain some things about the Christ:(Acts 17:2-3) “So according to Paul’s custom he went inside to them, and for three sabbaths he reasoned with them from the Scriptures, 3 explaining and proving by references that it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead, and : “Th…[Read more]

Quote Why do men confuse the servant Son with his Master God? I would suspect it is because God's cheif opposition has blinded mens minds to the truth, in order to confuse God in men's minds and make him unknowable, impersonal, a mystery.When people are confronted with a mystery, something that seems to defy known logic, often they don't even…[Read more]

Wikipedia:”Polytheism is belief in or worship of multiple gods or deities.”I certainly don't “worship” “multiple gods.”Jesus directed worship to his Father and his God, Jehovah. This is who I worship.Do I believe in multiple gods? I believe that the Bible uses the word “god” to refer to humans, judges, and angels, and of course Jehovah God and…[Read more]

Quote It rather indicates that “El” was used in the ancient world to denote power, and, as in pagan Canaan, “the Most High God,” but through the revelation of Scripture God asserted that He alone has all power and is almighty. –Tim 2Hi Tim2.I agree that El was used to denote power or strength or mightiness. And I agree that through Scripture…[Read more]

Quote Is this how you understand scriptures and Gods truth David by pure logic?How is it logical to believe that a Monotheistic Jew like John write that the Word was “A” God, which is what your NWT translates going against all the major credible translations which were translated by over 500 Greek and Hebrew scholars. The way I understand it your…[Read more]

For Tim2The Imperial Bible-Dictionary nicely illustrates the difference between ’Elo·hiḿ (God) and YHWH. Of the name Jehovah, it says: “It is everywhere a proper name, denoting the personal God and him only; whereas Elohim partakes more of the character of a common noun, denoting usually, indeed, but not necessarily nor uniformly, the Supr…[Read more]

Quote why don't we just accept that Jesus is equal to the Father Perhaps because Jesus himself said: The father is greater than I am.Perhaps it's because after his ascension to heaven, the Father was still considered “his God.”

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