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    Charity was talking about wisdom in proverbs. Your responce to her was:Was Jesus a female?The scriptures you refer to is speaking of wisdom personified not Jesus.. . . .Unless you believe he is female or the wife of God! And then:”Is Jesus your sister?”You are clearly saying that wisdom cannot be referring to Jesus, unless Jesus is female.I…[Read more]

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    I am usually not given things I already have, are you? Is there anyone here who has to be given something they already have?There are many many scriptures which speak of the things God gave Jesus. They were God's to give.Jesus had to given them.You cannot summarily dismiss these scriptures by saying: John 1:1.John 1:1 doesn't answer any of the…[Read more]

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    Quote Why isnt phil 2 and Jn 1:1 an answer?Those are scriptures not answers.Quote If he is God then that would say that he shared all power and authority as he does now Then why oh why did he have to be “given” these things?Are you usually given something you already posess?

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    Quote DavidNo I dont get it.You didnt read my post aparrantloy and you also have no clear evidence that wisdom in proverbs is Yeshua.(first, my main argument was to say that just because the word “wisdom” is in the femine gender, doesn't mean it can't be applied to Jesus. This is what I've said about 4 or 5 times, and WJ is having trouble…[Read more]

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    Quote The problem is you dont listen or dont accept the answers, which of course is your right.Um.. no. The problem is instead of even attempting to answer a question you can't answer, you say something LIKE 'John 1:1, Jesus is clearly God, hence the trinity, hence I don't have to answer your questions. check phil 2.'That isn't an answer. It…[Read more]

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    Quote DavidI didnt give up because I answered your questions! Please state the precise location!

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    Quote DavidNo my argument is bnot invalid!Is Jesus your sister?Let me explain it again….You say that the word wisdom is in the female gender so it can't apply to Jesus.But the Greek word “love” in “God is love” is also in the female gender and “God is love.”Obviously you CAN use the female gender for words that describe Jesus or even God.I took…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 19 years, 5 months ago

    “The time is sure to come when, far from being content with sound teaching, people will be avid for the latest novelty and collect themselves a whole series of teachers according to their own tastes; and then, instead of listening to the truth, they will turn to myths.”—2 Timothy 4:3, 4, Catholic Jerusalem Bible.One of those myths was the Trini…[Read more]

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    Quote DavidLies from your hellish religion!You're funny. You gave up in the other thread, because you can't answer questions, and now you go around simply saying: “hellish religion” instead of actually conversing.Look in the mirror for a second. What do you see? Someone who can't answer questions but prefers to slander. It is true that this is…[Read more]

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    Quote Hi Nick,Jesus prayed to God because He is man. Athough He is God, for our salvation He became man.So do you no longer believe he was also “fully God” while on earth? I'm not sure, maybe you never believed that. But if he was fully God, fully man, the whole time, then why would he need to ask for anything, being fully God?Jesus “BECAME flesh.”

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    Quote According to 1 Corinthians Jesus is the wisdom and power of God. So you believe that God's wisdom and power are found in someone else?PROVERBS 13:20“He that is walking with wise persons will become wiseJesus obviously has been walking with his Father for quite some time. And he has been “given” authority and power, as we've been d…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic Inference in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 5 months ago

    I should say, if you actually do want them to come back and see you, try not to use false logic or tell them that you know more than they do because you've read all the books on the shelf behind you or because you speak Greek or Aramaic. Understand that they are primarily to share the good news with you. When we find someone who spends every day…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic Inference in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 5 months ago

    Quote Hey guess what David, for the first time in living memory members of your church knocked on my door. It happaned yesterday morning. I instantly feel unimaginably sorry for them. (just kidding) But really. (half kidding)I take it you're often not home.Quote They said they would do some research and get back to me on some of my questions.…[Read more]

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    Quote Does this statement prove that Philip is a superior being to John?Define “superior being”

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    “You yourself argues that the word “Theos” and “Elohim” can mean rulers and judges and angels. Which are no gods at all.Do you think that Yeshua would be calling men gods and putting them in the same class as the Father and Yeshua?“In the God (Elohim) thread, WJ said the above.Just as human fathers can be called “father,” so is Jehovah. It doesnt'…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 19 years, 5 months ago

    Quote Jesus is a man. Of course he received authority and power from God. But He's also God. John 20:28.So, befor he was given this authority and power, how much authority and power did he have?did he have an equal amount of authority and power with his Father, and his God, Jehovah?And if he did, does this mean that after he was given this…[Read more]

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    I'm just trying to figure out what the mormons actually believe and there seems a difference between what a mormon on her said and what many encyclopedias say. It's a little grey to me.

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    david replied to the topic Inference in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 5 months ago

    Quote unipersonalI'll check a dictionary and get back to you.

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    Quote CharityWas Jesus a female?WJ, is God female? Yet, the Greek word for “love” in the expression “God is love” is also in the feminine gender. (1 John 4:8) So, your argument is invalid, and not scriptural.

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    Quote CharityWas Jesus a female?The scriptures you refer to is speaking of wisdom personified not Jesus. “Yahweh created me, first-fruits of his fashioning, before the oldest of his works. Before the mountains were settled, before the hills, I came to birth; before he had made the earth, the countryside, and the first elements of the world.” (Pr…[Read more]

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