Quote I hate to keep sounding like a broken record here – but what happened to the true conception and birth that Jesus is said to have had in the gospels? What about THAT Jesus?–Not3in1.What about that Jesus? He did exist in heaven. I know you have some ideas about this not being the case, based on an analogy of your husband, but I gave you…[Read more]

Quote Gee David, could you have quoted a less credible source??If you are allowed to use fallacious arguments, am I as well?Anyway, now that you've been forced to retract your wrong belief about how definite this scripture is, we can move on to something else…Is there a time limit on t8 answering your John 1:1 thread?

JOHN 15:18“If the world hates YOU, YOU know that it has hated me before it hated YOU.”Jesus followers would be hated by the world in general, as this and many other scriptures bear out.There's one check for him.MATTHEW 10:24-25““A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his lord. It is enough for the disciple to become as his teacher…[Read more]

Quote The following versions call Jesus God in Titus 2:13RV, RSV, NEB, Goodspeed, TEV, NIV, MLB, NASBThe following versions to not call Jesus God (mg=margin)KJV, RVmg, RSVmg, NEBmg, Moffatt, NWTApparently it is of some debate.Anyway, I imagine Is 1:18 would like to withdraw his comment that in this scripture Jesus is specifically called God.It is…[Read more]

Just a quick look at what Jehovah's Witnesses are about.

I wish you would go back and atually look at that post I gave a couple posts back.I'll quote from it:”Did they believe that they had all the answers, the full light of truth? To that question Brother Russell pointedly answered: “Certainly not; nor will we have until the ‘perfect day.’” (Prov. 4:18, KJ) Frequently they referred to their Scriptu…[Read more]

Quote According to what I have read, Russell was a prolific writer and wrote many books. In several instances he quotes scripture, without comment or correction, stating that Christ should be worshipped. (A view I undertand that is no longer supported by Jehova's Witnesses.that's right nick. when we discover we make mistakes, we correct them.…[Read more]

Quote Perhaps we should start a thread on him?Perhaps we should start a thread on you.You have repeatedly attacked JW's. You have started threads on them and on what they believe. It's always the attack position with you, you asking questions, completely ignoring other peoples questions.I have often felt that it should be turned around. But…[Read more]

Quote What did he teach that was WRONG? What did you teach that was wrong Nick? I remember you denouncing me for something i believed about Jonah. Now, you agree with me.Please go back and read my post.

Here is a trailer, that may tell you something about Jehovah's modern day Witnesses:

Just testing something:

Quote Just look at all the occult symbolism.If you have the cross as your symbol, am I to assume that you are Catholic?The cross and crown symbol is not exclusive to the knights templar or the masons and is not occult in origin, any more than the cross symbol itself is….Just because pagans have always worshiped the cross or various crosses…[Read more]

Quote Yes run to watch tower and post some more of their distorted truth!How many pages do we have to endure this time?Is 1:18 contends that this verse is essentially undisputed in stating that Jesu is God.He is clearly wrong.

In connection with Titus 2:13 the question is whether the Greek should be rendered ‘the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ,’ or ‘the glory of the great God, and of our Savior Jesus Christ.’ As Vincent Taylor observes: “The grammarians range themselves on both sides.”–The Expository Times, January 1962, page 117Hence, it cannot be c…[Read more]

1934 “of the great God and of our The Riverside New Savior Christ Jesus” Testament,Boston and New York.1935 “of the great God and of our A New Translation of the Saviour Christ Jesus” Bible, by James Moffatt, New York and London.…[Read more]

Anyway, I you made my point for me Is 1:18, that it does not in fact specifically or explicitely state that Jesus is God in this scripture. If it did, your words would have been unnecessary.Which translation agrees with Titus 1:4, which refers to “God the Father and Christ Jesus our Savior”? Although the Scriptures also refer to God as being a S…[Read more]

“Only a divine being can have a divine nature.”–Is 1:18, May 14th, (John 1:1, NWT thread, I think)2 PETER 1:4“Through these things he has freely given us the precious and very grand promises, that through these you may become sharers in divine naturehaving escaped from the corruption that is in the world through lust.” (Compare Phil 3:21; 1 Cor 1…[Read more]

1934 “of the great God and of our The Riverside New Savior Christ Jesus” Testament,Boston and New York.1935 “of the great God and of our A New Translation of the Saviour Christ Jesus” Bible, by James Moffatt, New York and London.…[Read more]

No, it doens't “specify” here that Jesus is God in any way whatsoever.SPECIFIC: “Explicitly set forth, definite.”Is 1:18, the verse in question in no sense of the word does this.You have played with the bold and underlining to emphasize your understanding of this verse. But I can do the same:Titus 2:13 (NASB)looking for the blessed hope and the…[Read more]

I have too much time on my hands.