Quote (Mary @ April 22 2013,11:03)Its is written to OBEY, Pay your Tax, That Tax is being used to Kill other Nations children. That Tax was used to Pay Roman solders to Kill any oposition to STOPING The roman empire from ruling Isreal, That Tax money Help Rome conquer Many Nations an spread its gospal all over the earth.Well, it's written to obey…[Read more]

Quote (david @ May 10 2013,15:57)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 10 2013,09:52)Quote (kerwin @ May 09 2013,06:12)We differ as I believe Jerusalem/Babylon is a land and he believes Jerusalem/Babylon is a religion.Hi Kerwin,I've been reading your discussion with David.  I haven't really seen anyone show “rock-solid” scriptural proof for either claim, but…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 10 2013,09:52)Quote (kerwin @ May 09 2013,06:12)We differ as I believe Jerusalem/Babylon is a land and he believes Jerusalem/Babylon is a religion.Hi Kerwin,I've been reading your discussion with David.  I haven't really seen anyone show “rock-solid” scriptural proof for either claim, but it is hard for me to believe that…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 09 2013,23:12)Quote (2besee @ May 09 2013,08:48)Hi Kerwin.Perhaps you are thinking of these verses:Matthew 23:35   That on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom you slew between the temple and the altar. Truly I say to you, All…[Read more]

Does this thread involve tiles then? Is this a tile thread? Is Jesus also Jehovah?No. Besides the lack of scriptures that directly says “jesus is Jehovah” or “Jehovah is Jesus,” I would probably start by saying they are generally described differently, although they do possess some similarities of course. I'm certain we will be discussing…[Read more]

LU, you use the name Jehovah a lot more than most people. Just wondering which bible you prefer and if it has that name in it, and roughly how often. I just wonder how likely it is for someone to believe in the trinity if Jehovah is made distinct, rather than substituting “GOD” or “LORD,” as many bibles do.

Quote (Lightenup @ May 09 2013,14:52)Quote (david @ May 08 2013,17:26)Hi LU,Sure.  I'm not super fond of the discussions where if you don't answer questions, you get a tile.  What actually would we be discussing?  Proskyneo?What you said about the son being called Jehovah?David,I suggested we discuss things in the discussion area, not the hot se…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 09 2013,10:09)Quote (david @ May 08 2013,16:26)I'm not super fond of the discussions where if you don't answer questions, you get a tile.Why?  Are you planning on avoiding her questions?No. I just prefer to remove the pressure or the possibility of being tiled.

Also, LU, at some point I want to have a much more in depth conversation about Christmas, and where you think it originated. Found your ideas fascinating enough to want to look at that more. I wish what you said about it was somewhat simplified. Anyway, another time.

Hi LU,Sure. I'm not super fond of the discussions where if you don't answer questions, you get a tile. What actually would we be discussing? Proskyneo?What you said about the son being called Jehovah?

Quote (kerwin @ May 08 2013,12:29)Quote (david @ May 08 2013,06:51)Quote (david @ May 07 2013,04:44)JESUS SPEAKING TO SCRIBES AND PHARISEES:New International Version (©2011)And so upon YOU will come ALL the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, WHOM YOU MURDERED…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 08 2013,12:32)Quote (david @ May 08 2013,06:45)Quote (kerwin @ May 07 2013,23:33)Quote (david @ May 06 2013,23:52)Kerwin, does Jesus words not indicate what this scripture in revelation was referring to?And does it not seem like both scriptures indicate that Babylon the great, (Christendom/false religion as a whole/religious…[Read more]

Quote (david @ May 07 2013,04:44)JESUS SPEAKING TO SCRIBES AND PHARISEES:New International Version (©2011)And so upon YOU will come ALL the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, WHOM YOU MURDERED between the temple and the altar.New Living Translation (©2007)As a r…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 07 2013,23:33)Quote (david @ May 06 2013,23:52)Kerwin, does Jesus words not indicate what this scripture in revelation was referring to?And does it not seem like both scriptures indicate that Babylon the great, (Christendom/false religion as a whole/religious leaders) are the ones responsible for the shed blood of both prophets…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ May 07 2013,09:19)Quote (david @ May 07 2013,04:52)Kerwin, does Jesus words not indicate what this scripture in revelation was referring to?And does it not seem like both scriptures indicate that Babylon the great, (Christendom/false religion as a whole/religious leaders) are the ones responsible for the shed blood of both prophets…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 07 2013,13:53)Quote (david @ May 06 2013,16:49)Quote (Lightenup @ May 07 2013,05:37)Quote (david @ May 06 2013,01:12)Quote Also please tell me whats stopping you from believeing Jesus is the eternal Son, the eternal expressed image that is expressed/radiated from the Father, who is indeed The Almightly Father  There are…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 07 2013,13:40)David,you said:Quote Well, I think it's pointless discussing a scripture that has proskyneo in it and could be translated in a number of ways.  It proves nothing, except that that translation team wanted to show Jesus being worshipped.Is it against the will of Jehovah for another god to be given…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 07 2013,05:44)Quote (david @ May 06 2013,00:38)Quote (Lightenup @ May 05 2013,03:18)Quote (david @ May 03 2013,23:24)These are interesting points:God alone is the creator. (Yet Jesus was involved in creation)God alone is saviour. (Yet, Jesus is called saviour)The father is the “only true God.”  (Yet, Jesus is called god)…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 07 2013,05:37)Quote (david @ May 06 2013,01:12)Quote Also please tell me whats stopping you from believeing Jesus is the eternal Son, the eternal expressed image that is expressed/radiated from the Father, who is indeed The Almightly Father  There are about 700 things.  I do see the 300 things that make some believe in the t…[Read more]

Quote I would think that children can see that Jesus is worshiped easily. Yes, children who were taught this from birth and have bibles that translate proskyneo as “worship” of course can see this.  It's all they can see.  It's all they are allowed to see. They would have to start thinking to see anything else. Quote Well, really this example of t…[Read more]