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    Not 3, you say some of my thoughts and questions are “just silly.”Are any of the above questions in bold silly? If so, could you point out why. If not, could you answer them, please. Because I don't think they are silly. And I think they are questions that you have avoided.While driving on a highway, we see ahead of us some children walking…[Read more]

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    It is a fact that the earliest Christians (those who followed Jesus and those who came right after them) REFUSED TO CELEBRATE BIRTHDAYS.Yes, you can say it was because they were mostly Jewish and the Jews didn't take part in such heathen customs, or you can say whatever. What we do know, without a doubt, so far uncontested on this board, at the…[Read more]

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    Questions:Is paganism good or bad?How is Jehovah's memory?How would Jehovah feel about me copying false worship that he hates?

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    “Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven, for the heathen are dismayed by them. For the customs of the people are vain” (Jer. 10:2, 3).Any comments?

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    And then there is this, which I wonder about:Quote I am free to eat meat sacrificed to idols, man!!Yes, the meat, the leftover meat is just meat. But you wouldn't want to take that meat and put it on their alter and join in with them. Or you wouldn't want to carve that meat into the image of their god and partake with them, would you? The point…[Read more]

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    Another question, I don't think you've ever answered: Do you think imitating pagan practices is ok? No, you are of course not worshipping those false gods which are nothing. But why oh why would you want to adopt their customs, imitate their false worship?

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    I noticed you missed this question:The question is: Would borrowing pagan practices that are rooted in magic and mythology be “innocent”?Please answer this one.

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    Hi Not3. You write:Quote Christ has set me free! He purchased me with his own blood! Yet you are still bound and tied and handcuffed to pagan traditions that dishonor God. Your “freedom” to disregard God's will isn't something I would be waving about. We all have freedom of will. We can do good or bad.The freedom you speak of is not freedom…[Read more]

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    Quote hey david where are you?? –Charity.Right here. My extra sensitive precipitation tells me that some day someone will find the missing link. It will make the headlines as it always does. Then, it will be reclassified as something completely different. But no one will ever hear that story.

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    Quote I think God WANTS us to have “innocent fun”. He has given us abundant life in Christ! The joy of the LORD is our strength! No one argues that God wants us to have innocent fun. In fact, having the sort of fun that is “innocent” is what I am arguing. The question is: Would borrowing pagan practices that are rooted in magic and mythology…[Read more]

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    Quote David wrote:If you think the quotes are wrong and the customs or origins are wrong, I ask you why the birthday cake? Why the candles? Find a source that explains it in another way.***************************************Again, the quotes and customs may be true, but they do not apply to me…..a child of the one true God.–Not3If your…[Read more]

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    Quote “Again, like I shared with Elaine, Paul taught us that there are many idols and gods in the world. However, they are nothing at all because for US there is only One God, the Father. We are allowed to eat meat sacrificed to idols as long as we do not make another brother stumble. …..Please don't allow my freedom in Christ to cause you to…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic Graven Images in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years ago

    Quote Exd 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness that in heaven above, or that in the earth beneath, or that in the water under the earth: Hello Living stone.Is it the making of them or the worshipping of them that is wrong?The next verse continues:”You must not bow down to them nor be induced to serve them,…[Read more]

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    I would like to address this comment just once more:Quote you can find writings/books/research/professionals/pastor's and your Uncle to tell you something had “pagen origins.” It's just a matter of who you read and where you do your research. For every negative on a birthday cake, I bet I could find someone in antiquity who wrote something…[Read more]

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    Quote I'm not interested in historians, I am interested in scripture. Just because scripture is silent on an issue does not negate it.Of course, scripture isn't really completely “silent” on birthdays. There were those two birthdays were each of them an enemy of God is celebrating his birthday and a servant of God is being killed.

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    Quote So far, with all due respect, it has only been personal opinions of those who choose not to celebrate. There is no real scripture to back it up. Are there any scriptures that say imitating paganism is wrong? I believe there are. Or do you deny this?

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    Quote I will say it again, there is nothing wrong with being happy and grateful for our lives…..every year that we live!I don't think anyone is disputing this. I believe its the imitation of pagan practices that God hates that is in question.

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    Quote There is no scriptural teaching telling us to avoid birthday celebrations. If there is such scripture, please show me.Ok, but THERE ARE scriptures telling us to have nothing to do with paganism, all kinds of them.And if the birthday celebration as we know it today (with the cake, candles in the cake, presents) have their origins in…[Read more]

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    Quote Surely, the LORD is the one who guides me, not the Encyclopdia Britannica! :)Right. I just don't want to somehow fall into the camp that wholeheartedly thinks the lord is guiding you when he isn't. All those who will be saying “lord, lord” (mat 7:21,22) will of course think the lord was guiding them. It's just too easy to deceive…[Read more]

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    Quote at just a glance, I can see that you want me to be bound to what our early “Church Father's” and the “Encylopedias” report, but I'm sorry, I simply do not feel any allegiance to either one! So, anything you have found regarding celebrations from these sources really doesn't impress me too much.–Not3It's just that you said:Quote you can…[Read more]

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