david replied to the topic Why all the killing? in the forum Faith 19 years ago
Quote Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.This is of course not the only answer.If a child is taken to the hospital to get a needle, he may not like the needle and may not understand it (his puny brain and all), but the parent knows it is for the child's long lasting wellfare. And the parent isn't malevolent.Today, too, often, we…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Why all the killing? in the forum Faith 19 years ago
Quote OK, I see it in the sense that it is not hypocrisy, but in that sense I don’t think it is a valid argument, either, because…OK, so we can agree that it isn't hypocritical when someone with authority tells someone else not to do something that they themselves can do.Quote Do you vote? If so, you are the government; they represent your vie…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Why all the killing? in the forum Faith 19 years ago
Quote Warning! The Old Testament verses quoted below describe the mass murder of children and may not be suitable for those of a nervous disposition.Lev. 20:9 For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.Deu. 20:13 And when the LORD thy God…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Why all the killing? in the forum Faith 19 years ago
Quote My opinion on child slaughter is that it is only done for religious reasons, and I am as appalled by the cause as much as I am by the deed.I believe in Leviticus there is a command against child sacrifice. This command was given as they were about to enter Canaan, probably, so that they (the Israelites) wouldn't adopt this deplorable…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Why all the killing? in the forum Faith 19 years ago
Quote Following Gen. 18:25 there is an exchange between Abraham and god in which god seems to concede that if fewer than 50 righteous people can be found in Sodom he would still not slaughter them all. Abraham pushes the point and god eventually stops answering. God is not a deontologist! The number of righteous he might kill along with the…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Why all the killing? in the forum Faith 19 years ago
Quote Hi again David++”You are telling me that a man with and engineering degree, whom God created, is more capable of designing the human body than the creator?There is no creator. I was being satirical. I am saying an engineer might be able to design a better back than natural selection has provided. After all, the one we have has not had m…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Why all the killing? in the forum Faith 19 years ago
Quote Warning! The Old Testament verses quoted below describe the mass murder of children and may not be suitable for those of a nervous disposition.Lev. 20:9 For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.Deu. 20:13 And when the LORD thy God…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Why all the killing? in the forum Faith 19 years ago
I should have mentioned that the following two posts were in response to stu's words:Quote Warning! The Old Testament verses quoted below describe the mass murder of children and may not be suitable for those of a nervous disposition.Lev. 20:9 For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Why all the killing? in the forum Faith 19 years ago
I wonder, if stu had the power, what would he have done? Allowed the child sacrifice? Allowed everything that went against goodness, etc?These were a people that did not deserve to live. Just as many justice systems today sometimes find people unfit to live, the “judge of all the earth” has the right to determine this.And he has set a pattern…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Why all the killing? in the forum Faith 19 years ago
And now for a little insight:Why did Jehovah decree the extermination of the Canaanites?The historical account shows that the populations of the Canaanite cities conquered by the Israelites were subjected to complete destruction. (Nu 21:1-3, 34, 35; Jos 6:20, 21; 8:21-27; 10:26-40; 11:10-14) This fact has been used by some critics as a means for…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Why all the killing? in the forum Faith 19 years ago
Quote Why is god's punishment for disobedience the death penalty?It would be unloving and unjust towards those who don't misuse their free will to allow such ones to exist. God's purpose for the earth has always been to have an earth of happy people who truly love him and want to obey him, as children would obey a father.Jehovah’s acts of p…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Birthday Celebrations: Christians? in the forum Faith 19 years ago
If you want refernces to the fact that the Jews nor early Christians (gentiles included) never celebrated birthdays and if you want their origins, and why they were originally celebrated and how, go here:http://www.cogwriter.com/birthdays.htm
david replied to the topic Birthday Celebrations: Christians? in the forum Faith 19 years ago
Quote David,I have stopped here, at the above quote in your lengthly post, and I will read no further.You do not know my heart. Why then do you think you are fit to judge it?We HAVE “skipped” birthdays before with our children (not that this is any of your business, but I offer it here because you seem to be so smug in the “knowing” what I must…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Birthday Celebrations: Christians? in the forum Faith 19 years ago
Quote I've heard you say this before. Where is this “fact” that the earliest Christians “refused” to celebrate birthdays? Where can I find this fact? Thanks.You can find this fact in the pages of history. One of the first places I found this “fact” was an encyclopedia in my parents house. I suggest you check any source that discusses history.…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Birthday Celebrations: Christians? in the forum Faith 19 years ago
25 Everything that is sold in a meat market keep eating, making no inquiry on account of YOUR conscience; 26 for “to Jehovah belong the earth and that which fills it.” 27 If anyone of the unbelievers invites YOU and YOU wish to go, proceed to eat everything that is set before YOU, making no inquiry on account of YOUR conscience. 28 But if any…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Birthday Celebrations: Christians? in the forum Faith 19 years ago
Hey Not3, this is somewhat long, so bear with me. I tried to respond to most everything you stated:Quote You post with such antagonizing interrogation! Eight posts with so many questions attached that I've lost track! My goodness.Any single one of the questions, if you like the eight of them were too much. It is true that I am frustrated, as…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Graven Images in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years ago
Quote We believers must combat this with the truth but what is the truth about graven images. What value have they that you would argue their cause?ALSALS, Idols have no value.But my question is:Does the prohibition against making carved images mean that it is wrong to make representations of objects for artistic purposes? I believe the answer is…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Birthday Celebrations: Christians? in the forum Faith 19 years ago
Quote Unbelievers keep Christmas and Easter as well as the deceived–kenrch.Hey Kenrch,I can't remember the exact numbers, but I believe 2/3s of the world celebrate christmas while only 1/3 claims to be Christian. Or something like that. The vast majority of those who celebrate Christmas (wiccan's, buddhists, etc) do not even believe in Jesus.…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Graven Images in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years ago
Are you guys saying that if I'm a painter or an artist, I'm not allowed to make paintings or sculptures or representations of anything?Representative figures of cherubs were included in the furnishings of the tabernacle set up in the wilderness. Rising above each end of the Ark’s cover were two cherubs of hammered gold. Also, the inner covering o…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Graven Images in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years ago
Quote David Is it the making of them or the worshipping of them that;s wrong? And where are we making an Idol? Since you saying “them” I am included in that.Since you are making an accussation I want an answer.Mrs.Quote David One more thing, do you know if we are making an graven Image and kneeling in front of it and worshipping it?You do not…[Read more]
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