david replied to the topic Gospel of Matthew in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 11 months ago
Hi Towshab. Jesus directed worship to his father. I for one do not “worship” Jesus. The word Proskyneo (if I spelt that right) can be translated a number of ways. Anyway, I'm still not seeing the contradiction.
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
“What other errors”….Well, this:Quote I will try to line the accounts up You should have first lined up the accounts, and then shown the contradiction, if there was any.My point was:Quote Moving so fast, we sometimes make simple errorsThe fact is, there is no contradiction in that account–Just more detail in some of the accounts.
david replied to the topic Gospel of Matthew in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 11 months ago
Quote Read Ruth 1:2, Ruth 4:11,21-22, and 1 Samuel 7:12.And if they were from there, this is a contradiction how?
david replied to the topic Gospel of Matthew in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 11 months ago
Hashem: in Judaism, a substitute word used when referring to God in contexts other than prayers or scriptural readings, because the name for God is considered too holy for such use.Did those who wrote the Bible consider God's name “too holy” for use?Are we not told countless times to praise God's name?Why is it in there (the Hebrew scriptures)…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Gospel of Matthew in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 11 months ago
How?
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
I've noticed that Towshab, you jump around fast. You list “many” supposed contradictions, and then move on to more. Moving so fast, we sometimes make simple errors, (like forgetting there is no zero year.)If we could please stick to this one contradiction of yours, that would be good.dave
david replied to the topic Gospel of Matthew in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 11 months ago
Although it is true that the Bible speaks of a man named Bethlehem, whose mother was named Ephrathah, it is also true that the Bible speaks of a town named Bethlehem. In fact there were two towns named Bethlehem. One was in Judah, the southern part of the Jewish homeland, and the other was in the north. But, the Bethlehem in Judah was in more…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
Quote I will try to line the accounts up sometime soon and show the discrepancies.Why don't I do it.John 20:1-13–Mary M–tomb early–Notices stone gone–ran to Peter and John–Said: “they’ve taken Jesus”–Peter and John run to tomb–they entered tomb–went home–Mary stayed, weeping-she saw 2 angels]Mat 28:1-10–Mary M went to grave–Jehovah’s angel had…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
Quote If the 4 gospels were used in a court of law to prove Jesus rose, assuming these people had not hear of Jesus of course, the jury would likely disagree with you. I will try to line the accounts up sometime soon and show the discrepancies.Please do. Because I don't see any. I only see some recorded more detail.
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
Quote Mat 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.Mat 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.Mat 28:3 His…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
All of Luke is in Italics. John in bold. These are the only two accounts that at first, might seem to contradict.LUKE 24:1-12“On the first day of the week, however, they went very early to the tomb, bearing the spices they had prepared. But they found the stone rolled away from the memorial tomb, and when they entered they did not find the b…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
Quote get 29, subtract 30, get 1 BC. I don't have time to read this right now, but if you subtract 30 from the year 29, you get 2 BC. There is no zero year. (Many make that mistake.)It goes like this: -3, -2, -1, 1, 2, 3, 4….No zero year.I've actually went through the acount with Jesus missing from the tomb. There is no contradiction. It's…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
Just to add a little detail:“You should know and have the insight that from the going forth of the word to restore and to rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Leader, there will be seven weeks, also sixty-two weeks. She will return and be actually rebuilt, with a public square and moat, but in the straits of the times.”—Daniel 9:25.Persian King…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
So, I take it you are still waiting for Messiah?Hundreds of prophecies were fullfilled through Jesus.Since the records were destroyed when Jerusalem was, there really is no way of another even claiming to be Messiah.Go back and look at daniel and the seventy weeks (of years). It pointed to the time (the very year Jesus arrived as messiah) when he…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
Quote The belief in a burning pit called hell keeps Christians serving a god in fear. Very sad.“hell” (hades) is thrown into the lake of fire, therefore not a “burning pit” as you say.Why would a burning pit be thrown into fire?
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
Quote Since Jesus resurrection cannot be verified outside of the Christian bible, there is no reason to believe it is real.You could just as easily say God cannot be verified outside the Bible.But this would be wrong.I would like to discuss this more, but can't right now. david
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
Quote Yes, you can, if you are willing to admit your god is not the G-d of Israel. If Jehovah is not the God of Israel, who is?
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
Quote Yes, that's why so many Mary's. The authors could confuse the issue that way.–tOWshab.Yes, all these mary's can be confusing. Maybe there was so many mary's because “mary” was a common name back then, just like “John” was an extremely popular name in the early part of last century.If you're having trouble putting these accounts together,…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
Towshab states:Quote That is where a big contradiction comes in for the Christian bible. All throughout the Jewish Bible, G-d says He is the only savior, that there is no other. Then along comes Jesus and people call him the savior. How did G-d change? Right. God is the only savior. Without him, there could be no salvation. We owe everything to…[Read more]
david replied to the topic WHY in the forum Faith 18 years, 11 months ago
Quote If there are all these Christians in the world. Why do they stand-up for what they believe? GODWhy are so many Christians not willing to share there faith and beliefs about GOD?First, some do “share their faith and beliefs” and even preach the good news of the kingdom that Jesus fortold would be preached in our time. (mat 24:14)But Jesus…[Read more]
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