david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
Quote He he, know the feeling with the finances. My wife wants us to buy one of those toy dogs. Which is fine, except they cost the thick end of $1000. Hmmmm. It won't even guard the house or protect the kids. I suggest a labra doodle…..if you want the other kids to beat you up.
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
You “have” demonstrated that you have some incling of what the word “contradiction” means.Please explain where.I'll give you some time. I'm going to go look at the other threads for a while.david
david replied to the topic The bible in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 18 years, 11 months ago
Samples from six continents and the islands of the sea; hundreds of such legends are knownAustralia – Kurnai Destruction by Water Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a VesselBabylon – Berossus’ account Destruction by Water Warning Given Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a VesselBabylon – Gilgamesh epic Destruction by W…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The bible in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 18 years, 11 months ago
Quote but I'm sure you have heard of the contradictions, such asHow many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into the Ark? Nope. Haven't heard of it. Why don't you tell us all about it.
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
Quote Quote (david @ Nov. 02 2007,21:33)QuotePerhaps but show me in Jewish scripture where anyone was falsely cut off.True, Christ was exceptional. No argument there.That was you lamest answer yet. Try harder. I don't remember me or anyone ever asserting that the events surrounding Jesus life were ordinary.To cut off often means to cut off in…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
Quote King Cyrus.Isa 45:1 Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;And how does cyrus line up with the prophecy
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
Quote If i am to believe the Christian bible I must do so at face value not the apologetic insertions of someone who must believe lest they burn in the lake of fire.You are mixing up dante's mythology of the devil/demons/lake of fire with what the Bible actually says.Fire is a symbol of eternal destruction, as every furnace in the world will…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
Quote Please do not equate me with the ones who authored G-d's Holy Word.I've always thought of “God” as the one who is the “author” of the Bible. Those who wrote it were his secretaries, writing his thoughts, the word of Jehovah.
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
Quote Yes it is but no name is given. It is the events that matter. The temple is destroyed as is the holy city, Jerusalem. Do you not find that significant? It was the end of the second temple. The third temple will be built when the real Moshiach comes. Wouldn't we have to know the identity of this one?24 “There are seventy weeks that have b…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
Quote Perhaps but show me in Jewish scripture where anyone was falsely cut off. True, Christ was exceptional. No argument there.
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
Quote I am done with this particular phase of our discussions.Fine, I tried to make it simpler for you, so you could see your obvious error and gain some common understanding.I don't know how it could be any more plain. The fact that you refuse to answer the obvious, makes me think you actually do understand your error and don't want to discuss…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
Quote Please do not equate me with the ones who authored G-d's Holy Word. Oh trust me, I'm not.I only thought that perhaps, you would want to imitate their fine ways.
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
Quote You filled in the apologetic blanks that make the story work. Yet you have no logical right to, only the need to believe. If “common sense” is not a “logical right” then you are correct. I have no logical right to fill in the blanks.He went into his house.He drove away.Yet, he didn't leave his house.Of course we know he left his house.…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
Creating something and allowing something to happen are different.A mother gives birth to a baby. That baby grows up and decides it likes to steel. Did that mother create a thief?Yes, God has allowed us the choice of doing bad things.And he has allowed us the choice of doing good things.When I do a good thing, is it God that is creating it, or…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
Quote So you've just admitted that he violated one of these and was wicked. Interesting to say the least.No, what I admitted is that people who are cut off are often people who are cut off in death. (It just so happens that this is usually for bad reasons.)Jesus was tried as a criminal, guilty of three charges, all of which were false. Anyway,…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
Quote Which priest? This seems to be a pretty significant prophecy.
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
Quote If Brittany spears and her mom go to the mall, the headlines read: “Brittany spears goes to the mall.” Sure, maybe some of the papers might read: “Brittany and mom go to mall.” But most, would focus on what is considered more important. ]And it's not a contradiction in the least if one paper says: “Brittany goes to the mall” and another…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
Quote You are still working off a false assumption.correct me then. Those who wrote the Bible did not believe that it was in any way disrespectful to write God's name. Evidence of this is the thousands of times they did it.You believe it is more respectful to not write his name….just in case, I guess.What I'm saying is that those who wrote the…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
Quote Deu 30:15 See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil; The choices are: good–lifeor evil–death.Those are the two choices.And rightly, Jehovah brought evil or calamity upon Adam for his disobedience. Hence, in the Scriptures, Jehovah is referred to as the Creator of evil or calamity. (Isa…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Jesus, THE Messiah? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 11 months ago
Quote The book of Job was a lesson in depending on G-d. G-d allows His children to be tested and tried so that they will turn to Him. As you can see Job did just that. Right, and in the first or second chapter (can't remember) we have “Satan” speaking to God.What do you make of this?
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