Is that today?

The 4 forces of nature are fine tuned. They seem set at the only numbers they could be. (If the strong nuclear force or weak nuclear force or gravity or the electromagnetic force were changed, life in this universe could not exist. The universe itself could not exist.) How do we account for this?

Over the centuries, Bible prophets supplied specific requirements that the Messiah would have to meet, identifying him unmistakably. As the prophets supplied these details over the centuries, a picture of the Messiah gradually emerged. Henry H. Halley observed:“Suppose a number of men of Different Countries, who had never seen, nor in any way c…[Read more]

towshab, I'm wondering where I can find the geneological records that can be traced back to david? Are there any websites that you know of that have these?

Ok, for the second half of that post, imagine everything not bold as bold and everything bold as not bold.thanks.

I know I've commented on these things before, but I want to discuss them.By Jesus’ day the Jews had suffered for centuries under a series of harsh Gentile rulers. They longed for a political deliverer.But to the great disappointment of the Jews, Jesus was no political hero. On the contrary, he claimed that his Kingdom ‘was no part of the wor…[Read more]

ISAIAH 53:12“For that reason I shall deal him a portion among the many, and it will be with the mighty ones that he will apportion the spoil, due to the fact that he poured out his soul to the very death, and it was with the transgressors that he was counted in; and he himself carried the very sin of many people, and for the transgressors he p…[Read more]

Like, the part about being crushed for our errors?

ISAIAH 53:3-9“He was despised and was avoided by men, a man meant for pains and for having acquaintance with sickness. And there was as if the concealing of one’s face from us. He was despised, and we held him as of no account. Truly our sicknesses were what he himself carried; and as for our pains, he bore them. But we ourselves accounted him as…[Read more]

ISAIAH 53:3“He was despised and was avoided by men, a man meant for pains and for having acquaintance with sickness. And there was as if the concealing of one’s face from us. He was despised, and we held him as of no account.”Tow, I wonder how this fits in with your thinking?

Quote I believe in angels. 'Satan' means 'adversary'. Even King David was called a 'satan' one time.Right, and the word “angel” is the exact same word as “messenger” and Adam as man. Before, you hinted at the idea that you don't believe adam was an actual individual. I take it you believe the whole genesis account is therefore an allegory, is…[Read more]

Quote Hell is 'sheol' which means the grave. Not some place the devil and his minions hang out.–towshab.Wow, we agree on something.

Our of curiosity Samuel, what have you been discussing with them?david

While on the topic of faith, I'd like to talk about the doctrine of evolution and why people blindly put faith in this orthox theory of science.(I've posted this in the evolution thread as well. But I now think it belongs more in the “faith” thread.)2 TIMOTHY 4:3-4“For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful t…[Read more]

Quote If I came to your door would you let ME in? I think you'd see me to the door faster that the average JW, baptist, or even atheist. The difference is I know scripture both Jewish and Christian–towshabNo. You don't.

Quote I have a question for you Please Forgive Me. Did you ever believe that Bush was the Anti-Christ or do you presently believe that? Question: Why do we believe there is one super powerful antichrist?1 JOHN 2:18-19 (c. 98. C.E.)“Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as you have heard that antichrist is coming, even now there have c…[Read more]

Why evolution attracts people:2 TIMOTHY 4:3-4“For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false s…[Read more]

Quote Let me ask you david, what do you consider to be a miracle? Now look at many of the miracles of both the Tanakh and your own new testament. Do you know of a single incidence of miracles on this scale outside of these? You again have to remember that these people were very primitive and likely much more easily impressed by natural phenomena…[Read more]

Quote I'll believe it was more than allegory on both parts when you show me a talking snake and donkey. Old episodes of Mr. Ed withstanding.So, the donkey was also an allegory because donkeys don't normally talk. And all the miracles in the bible are allegories, because miracles don't happen.Is that the gist of it?

Just to understand, which parts of the genesis account do you beleive are allegory. Where does the allegory start and where does it end. Where they ever in Eden for example. Was “Adam” a real person? (You know, the word “adam” simply means “man” just as Satan simply means “opposer.” It is just as easy to state that he never existed and that…[Read more]