“You are not able to see my face, because no man may see me and yet live.”This is not to say no human will never see God. I believe some will put on immortality and be given “divine nature” and hence, are the ones who will see God.“Happy are the pure in heart, since they will see God.”–matthew 5:81 JOHN 3:2“Beloved ones, now we are childre…[Read more]

At this he said: “Cause me to see, please, your glory.” –ex 33:18His “glory” is what he asked to see and his “glory” is what he saw.

Quote It says he saw his back. Question: What is his “back”?Is it the back side of him, with bones and flesh? Does he have skin on his “back”?Do the muscles in his “back” move him?The Bible says “God is a spirit.”

Quote Not a bad answer. I have heard something like that before.What of the rest of my post?Quote however, moses still did see Jehovah from the cleft. Let's just stick with one thing for a moment.

Quote 1 John 4:1212 No one has ever seen God. But if we love each other, God lives in us, and his love is brought to full expression in us.Exodus 33:1111 The LORD (Jehovah) would speak to Moses face to face, as a man speaks with his friend.This expression denotes intimate two-way conversation. Moses talked with God’s representative and orally r…[Read more]

Quote Will you David please try to explain how you can warp your reason in to accepting Jehovah as good. And how you explain my quoted verses. If you could please direct me to the very first place you posted this, I believe I attempted to answer you there. i can't remember what thread that was, but I'd like to find it.First, on “seeing God,” I…[Read more]

Quote The reason somebody would lie about there name would be to give credance to a forgery. Pretty simple.So you're saying Peter actually existed then.

Evidence for an authorized listing of writings for the Christian Greek Scriptures began piling up as early as 90-100 C.E. And by the end of the second century, there was no question that the canon of the Christian Greek Scriptures had been closed. There are at least 16 outstanding early catalogs of the Christian Greek Scriptures, from the…[Read more]

Quote We have many ancient texts that are written in the name of an apostle. Does this make them authentic as well?That is not sound logic. It was written by peter because IT SAYS it was written by peter? Somebody wrote it. Why would he lie about his name. Quote Moreover, Irenaeus, Clement of Alexandria, Origen, and Tertullian all quote the…[Read more]

Quote Well Peter didn't write it.Peter’s writership is established by the opening words. 1 PETER 1:1“Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the temporary residents scattered about in Pon′tus, Ga·la′ti·a, Cap·pa·do′ci·a, Asia, and Bi·thyn′i·a, to the ones chosen”2 PETER 1:1“Simon Peter, a slave and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have obtai…[Read more]

Quote Paul didn't believe Jehovah was the most high.HEBREWS 7:1“For this Mel·chiz′e·dek, king of Sa′lem, priest of the Most High God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him”

Anyway, as I was saying, if you believe in what you “practice”–athiesm…then you are intellectually dead, according to your statements.”atheism”–the doctrine or belief that there is no God.This definition doesn't say that you believe 99.9% that there is not God. It says you believe there is no God, in other words, 100.00%.What are we to…[Read more]

So if someone says: “Do you believe in God” and it's a “Yes” or “no” or “unsure” choice, your answer would be…

Quote Politics is about management of power and that is exactly what Paul was about as well.Paul gave up all his worldly power and became a tent maker. He didn't use the political system to achieve his ends. He didn't become a politician. He wasn't against the idea that we need order or that we should obey the governments. He was for God's…[Read more]

Quote If you read back over my posts you will see that I am a philosophical agnostic and pragmatically an atheist. I was having a conversation with you once and you seemed to be in a corner where admitting you were an agnostic didn't suit you so you said: “Fine, I'm an atheist.”So does it change when it suits you then? Is that what you're…[Read more]

Quote Refusal to get involved in politics is a political act, by definition.So no matter what you do, you're political?

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 07 2008,16:57)Hi NickQuote You obviously have read the bible and believe from it of the existence of Jesus and Paul. So if the records are true these records speak of healings and resurrections and deliverances. I do not accept the bible as a reason for believing that Jesus or Paul existed. It is tenuous at best to believe in…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Jan. 07 2008,17:06)stu, does the existence of science or the ability to reason and make progress negate the existence of God?Do any of the known laws of science negate the existence of God?Yet, you are 100% certain there is no God.I asked if you were an agnostic. You eventually decided you were an “athiest.” An athiest is someone…[Read more]

Oh, and this appears to be solid proof, that stu is, according to his own reasoning, and his own words, “intellectually dead.”

the above was in reference to this:Quote It is the very best thing I have to offer, and it is the essence of the progress made by humanity. You can be 99.9% sure, but once you are 100% sure then you are intellectually dead.