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    david replied to the topic Jesus IS the MESSIAH in the forum Faith 18 years, 8 months ago

    ISAIAH 52:13-53:12“Look! My servant will act with insight. He will be in high station and will certainly be elevated and exalted very much. To the extent that many have stared at him in amazement—so much was the disfigurement as respects his appearance more than that of any other man and as respects his stately form more than that of the sons of…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic Jesus IS the MESSIAH in the forum Faith 18 years, 8 months ago

    By Jesus’ day the Jews had suffered for centuries under a series of harsh Gentile rulers. They longed for a political deliverer.But to the great disappointment of the Jews, Jesus was no political hero. On the contrary, he claimed that his Kingdom ‘was no part of the world.’ (John 18:36)Furthermore, Jesus did not then usher in the glorious Messi…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic Confused in the forum Faith 18 years, 8 months ago

    Quote The verses you have quoted I have studied. What I wonder is the African tribe may view the heavens and praise the Creator alright, but what of Jesus as their Messiah? The scriptures do not give us any indication that the tribe would view the heavens and be able to name Jesus as their Way? What do you think about this?Quote What about the…[Read more]

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    kejonn, Yes, these scriptures do seem to condradict, UNTIL we look at what they are actually discussing.Faith and Works.Works of the MOSAIC LAW, which included such things as sacrificial offerings, purifications, and circumcision, did not make a person righteous. (Ro 3:20; 4:1-10; Ga 3:2) ROMANS 3:20“Therefore by works of law no flesh will be d…[Read more]

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    Quote To the people of Jesus' day, Paul was mixing some elements with paganism in with the message of Judaism. –kejonnI've heard you say this before. What were the “elements with paganism”?

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    JOHN 17:17“Sanctify them by means of the truth; your word is truth.”JAMES 1:18“Because he willed it, he brought us forth by the word of truth, for us to be certain firstfruits of his creatures.”The phrase: “the word of Jehovah” occurs 210 times in the Bible, roughly. The Bible is the word of God. When Jesus said that God's word is truth, he mean…[Read more]

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    Quote Doubt can lead one in search of truth so not all doubt is bad. Some doubt that what they are learning in school is true and decide for themselves that the world must have a devine Creator, and they go on to find God. So in this way, doubt turned out well and fine. –mandyYes, sometimes doubt is good. But sometimes, bad.JAMES 1:5-8“So, i…[Read more]

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    Quote (heaven @ Jan. 21 2008,16:23)Regarding those who have denied the messiah. A new member group has been set up called “Non-believers” and 2 members have already been moved into that group.The Non-believers group cannot post in the “Believers Place” forums.If a member is posting in these forums and disrupting the discussions with unbelief…[Read more]

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    Quote It seems that those who hold strict belief systems do not want me to falter from them. –mandyMore accurately mandy, you began by believing that he was filled with lies and would deceive many, and now yet, you say you are sad to see him go. To “falter” means to be “unsure or weak.” What I do not want you to falter from is your faith in…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ Jan. 20 2008,18:03)Quote Most will be happy to see go, I'm sorry to say. He that is not on my side is against me, and he that does not gather with me scatters.–mat 12:30Tow was clearly “against” Jesus.How sad should we be to see someone who is against the son of God?Or do you no longer have faith in this fundamental truth, because…[Read more]

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    Quote However, if we discover a complete theory, it should in time be understandable by everyone, not just by a few scientists. Then we shall all, philosophers, scientists and just ordinary people, be able to take part in the discussion of the question of why it is that we and the universe exist. If we find the answer to that, it would be the…[Read more]

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    Quote The former simply did not believe in any kind of pigeonhole, and certainly not in a supernatural creator, and Hawking uses the word god in a fanciful, almost-mocking-but-not-quite way. Considering the importance of his work, it's no little thing that he mentions God so often.What does he mean by “God”? Or by the “mind of God?” Please…[Read more]

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    Quote Most will be happy to see you go, I'm sorry to say. He that is not on my side is against me, and he that does not gather with me scatters.–mat 12:30Tow was clearly “against” Jesus.How sad should we be to see someone who is against the son of God?Or do you no longer have faith in this fundamental truth, because of him?Either Tow is correct,…[Read more]

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    Quote Oh, this Adieu makes me sad. I don't want you to leave because of me?…. I need to ask questions and find answers. But to do this, I need people who are objective in my life. What use is a religion if no one questions it? ….Don't the Christians want the JW's to question their religion? Fine, I'll question your religion. Mandy, I'm not…[Read more]

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    Quote (Is 1:18 @ Jan. 20 2008,07:59)I see the HN believers have been dubbed the “fundies” over there… :p In my experience these new forums either take off or die a slow (and sometimes quick) death. There is a honeymoon period where everyone loves eachother, and think “our point of difference is that we are all truth seekers here and isn't it great…[Read more]

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    I was really hoping to one day actually discuss Isaiah 53 in much much greater detail.I'm guessing I still will, but without the arguments against. I tend to dig much deeper whenever people challange me.isaiah 1:18, every time I say something about Isaiah 53 referring to the Messiah, you respond: “No, that's incorrect,” ok?Goodbye Tow. Regarding…[Read more]

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    Quote It is striking how much Stephen Hawking does the god metaphor. His ideas are clearly not theist or deist in nature, but god does this and god does that…If he doesn't mean “God” then why does he say God? Why doesn't he just say “nature” or whatever.

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    Quote “Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.”–Carl Sagan (The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark)I feel true science and established facts are compatible with the truth of what the Bible really teaches. It's the misrepresentation and twisting of both that has created trouble.

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    Quote However, if we discover a complete theory, it should in time be understandable by everyone, not just by a few scientists. Then we shall all, philosophers, scientists and just ordinary people, be able to take part in the discussion of the question of why it is that we and the universe exist. If we find the answer to that, it would be the…[Read more]

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    Quote Well Nick, the challenge is there for you to compare and contrast the biblical account with the Hawkins-Einstein model, pointing out mathematically where these two gentlemen have it wrong.A BRIEF HISTORY OF TIME, by Stephen Hawking, most popular scientist on the planet, and by far, the most record breaking best seller of a cosmology book on…[Read more]

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