Quote There are precisely two kinds of prophecies in referring to the Messiah–those that speak of his triumphant second coming and those that speak of his humble coming Mandy, do you disagree with the above statement?

Quote The Messiah was to accomplish all the first time around. While it doesn't say he would come twice, nor does it say the above. The fact that you “gave up” on Isaiah 53 makes me wonder. There are two groups out there, with quite opposite agendas, regarding this verse.Which makes the most sense? What do you actually believe those verses are…

Quote This verse was in fact fulfilled by Mr. Armstrong, as he did indeed “preach the good news to all nations”.hmmm. I don't remember that. I must have missed it somehow. I certainly don't remember him trying to reach me with the good news….or any of my friends, or family. In fact, I've never heard of him, up until this thread started. If…[Read more]

Quote And this is the point I am trying to make……Jesus' works did NOT match what was promised/predicted of the Messiah to come.That is why the Jews, and John the Baptist were confused. That is why I am confused today.Quote Jesus did not accomplish what he was supposed to as the Messiah.–mandy, another thread.Hi mandy. I'm sorry to say I've…[Read more]

Quote Hi David, the Church of God that Ron Weinland is pastor of is organised. Many of us do meet on the Sabbath, though some are more widely spread than others and do not yet have this opportunity. Thankfully we have the marvels of modern day technology.But I could call 100 people and 99 of them will have never heard of Ron or his message. yet,…[Read more]

There is virtually no quoting of scripture on this thread. I'm just wondering why? I'm wondering why Ron's thoughts can't be explained and explained in light of scripture. If what ron is saying is true, it would mesh with scripture, but no one here seems to be quoting God's word at all. It's just Wron's words.

It's true that JW's have been overly eager to see the realization of these prophecies.Shortly before Jesus died, his disciples “were imagining that the kingdom of God was going to display itself instantly.” Then, after his resurrection they asked whether the Kingdom would be set up right away. Also, about ten years before Peter wrote his sec…[Read more]

Quote There is no rapture. That doesn't exist. –DEWe actually agree.

Quote Hi david,You quote t8″This thinking is part of the division and curse of Babel. . . .Come out of Babylon”and then promote division? I'm not “promoting” division Nick. I'm pointing it out. It exists. You are a group of exactly …. one. If we all were like you, how divided a world it would be!You would think if there was some truth out…[Read more]

Quote Certainly the comfort of fellow believers is precious to the insecure–NickYes, Nick, that's pretty much how the Bible charcterizes it, except they weren't so insecure. And while it's true that we should fellowship with the Father and son, that's not what the Bible is speaking of here, is it?Heb. 10:24, 25: “Let us consider one another t…[Read more]

Quote This thinking is part of the division and curse of Babel. . . .Come out of BabylonDidn't babylon teach the eternal torrment of the wicked T8?Isn't Nick therefore under babylon's influence (whether he realized it or not) if he accepts teachings that aren't in the Bible but that originate with babylon?Yes, Babylon is where we get the trinity…[Read more]

Quote Wake up people.So T8, you have the truth. Tell us, who other than you have the truth? Could I have a list? Or is it just you? The fact that your other moderator doesn't agree with you on whether God is a torturer of people in fire for all eternity makes me think that either it was hard to find someone for this job, or there is no one out…[Read more]

Quote Hi david,But for the sake of JW unity you have sacrificed truth and agree with the teaching of falsehoods.Is that wise?My point Nick, which I actually forsaw you missing and should have written down so that you would believe, is that you, and you alone would miss my point, which wasn't directed to you.His point was that he had some sort of…[Read more]

Quote To whoever speculated that posters on here were related or one in the same or family members…LOL! –broncUsually, B, when someone on here are husband and wife, they share that. They don't have a conversation with each other like they're strangers who just happen to think the others are smart for realizing the genius of Ron.Example (page…[Read more]

Quote I don't know any other people who are as genuine and open hearted as them. . . .I don't know anywhere else in the world that has that feeling.–AOP, p 19AOP, might I suggest that you haven’t met very many people.Quote Because of your comment I'm guessing that it is rare for you to come across people that are of one mind.–gnipp gnopp., p 20S…[Read more]

Quote I'm going to read my bible and pray, and thats the way is going to be. Hi Samuel. Out of curiosity, how do you personally feel about this command: Matthew 28:19,20?

DE or AOP, I have a question that I think was asked to you on that other site:”If this is Gods word through Ron, why does he even speculate he could be a false prophet?Your response was:”You are speculating Ron is false. Ron is not speculating. His message is True. He has. You cannot see nor hear… “But that's the point. IF his message is true,…[Read more]

OK, so AOP and DE, do you have any more family on this thread: Bronx or gnipp gnopp for example?I just felt someone mislead on the first page of this thread where you two were agreeing with each other as though you didn't know one another.

Sorry, just found this post in this thread:Quote A of P is my wife. I didn't realize she was logged in. lolSo that last post was mine.-discipleelohim

In another website, Anticipation of Peace, I noticed you signed some of your posts as: Discipleelohim.This confused me and made me think that maybe you were DE.Then, I read this statement from you on that site:”The second thing that has been most amazing for me, is that all the brethren has taken my husband (DE) and myself under their wings so to…[Read more]