Maybe I shouldn't have posted this here. There is a “sabbath” thread. But I specifically wanted to disucss this with the Ron people and not Nick. And I tend to see a lot of “happy sabbath” on this thread.

“Between me and the sons of Israel it is a sign to time indefinite.”—Ex. 31:16, 17.

Looking at Matthew 5 once again, the religious leaders consider Jesus a transgressor of God’s Law.Keeping in mind all those other scriptures that speak of the “law and the prophets”Jesus says:“Do not think I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets . I came, not to destroy, but to fulfill.”Jesus' conduct did not violate any law of God; but it did r…[Read more]

Quote And in Matthew Christ says he has come to “fulfill” not do away with what God gave to Moses.Often, in the Greek scriptures, we find phrases like: “the Law and the Prophets” I believe according to scripture, this is referring to the Hebrew scriptures (Old testament) in general.MATTHEW 7:12““All things, therefore, that you want men to do to y…[Read more]

http://www.christian-thinktank.com/falsechrist.htmlI think this site reasons fairly soundly on 3 possibilities, concerning messiah.It looks at some apparent “contradictions”:Quote # How is the Messiah going to lead Israel to greatness, while at the same time the Messiah is to be rejected by Israel?# How is the Messiah going to be the ultimate…[Read more]

Nick, you never actually answered my question. Anywho…Quote Jesus decides who is a sheep and who is a goat.–nickRight, no question. Jesus provided other examples of people being divided, or separated. Recall that he said concerning the broad road that leads to destruction: “Many ARE the ones going in through it.” (Matthew 7:13) That was not…[Read more]

Paul stated that Christ Jesus will bring vengeance upon “those who do not know God and those who do not obey the good news about our Lord Jesus.” (2 Thess. 1:8, 9) People will be judged by their response to the good news. What a serious responsibility this places upon God’s servants! In order to avoid bloodguilt, we must not hold back from makin…[Read more]

Quote Everyone will have a chance after the 1000 year reign to be a part of the church. Those not alive during in the 1000 year period will be resurrected (without their deficient/flawed bodies) to live in the kingdom (for 100 years) after the 1000 years has past. At that time because they will be in God's Kingdom and under His rule (not man's…[Read more]

ACTS 24:15“and I have hope toward God, which hope these themselves also entertain, that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.”Nick, why does God resurrect these unrighteous? It's because they didn't know any better.”True, God has overlooked the times of such ignorance, yet now he is telling mankind tha…[Read more]

Quote Nick – what about all the people who have already died, how will they hear the good news?True, THAT is where this resurrection of “righteous AND UNRIGHTEOUS” comes in. They weren't given a chance. They were times of ignorance and a time when the good news wasn't being preached everywhere. But that time is not now.Now, the good news is…[Read more]

Quote Actually, “I didn't know” doesn't apply to anyone at any time because the time will come when all will know and have a chance to be a part of the Church. This is important because even today not everyone has had a chance to hear the gospel and choose to follow God's laws. This includes people who lack the mental capacity to understand and…[Read more]

Regarding Matthew 24:14, it has been said:Quote This verse was in fact fulfilled by Mr. Armstrong, as he did indeed “preach the good news to all nations”.First, okay, I'm sorry. I kept referring to Ron and Armstrong. Let's focus on Armstrong.First, how did he preach this good news and to which nations exactly did he go? If you tell me he…[Read more]

Quote Heh,heh you are not very nice. Let me tell you there are some who did not ever hear of Mr. Armstrong. We were in the Church for 10 years so I do know that He exsisted, now are you satisfied that somebody knows? I'm pretty sure if we did a poll of the world, less than 1% of the world would have any clue who either of these guys are and a…[Read more]

Quote david -How old are you? Cause you post like you are somewhere between 18 and 25. I probably have kids older than you.Mr. Armstrong was 93 years old when he died in 1986, which was probably before you were even born. Just because YOU have never heard of him doesn't mean anything. He worked as God's witness from 1931 until 1986. It was…[Read more]

Quote Good call.–NickThese words were in response to me saying “Wrong THREAD, Nick.”My opening words included this statement:“I would really like to keep this thread to only discussing the prophecies of the Hebrew scriptures and how they relate to Jesus.”The thing is, I actually do want to study this subject. So I would prefer if this thread…[Read more]

Quote God does not require middle men to communicate with us.Explain Moses.

Quote The post can be found on the Isaiah 53 thread.Kejonn, I noticed your thread at your site didn't go very far. I found these words interesting:Quote Your 'buddy' David at the other board is trying to make his point for Jesus in Isaiah 53 and it ain't happening. Who IS that guy? He seems to be a glutton for punishment.–tow (another site)Quote…[Read more]

Mandy, again, I'm wondering what your comments would be on this:In the thread, “the real king Messiah” Towshab writes (on pages 2 and 3):”It will be proven when all of the others take place. Through them, all will know that the King Messiah is of the lineage of David.””You act as if the King Messiah will have to prove himself. G-d will do the…[Read more]

Mandy, the following is a post from a few pages back, that I addressed to you. I'm wondering what your thoughts are.Towshab had repeatedly said that when the Messiah arrived, everyone would know it, what with the glorious triumphant messianic prophecies being fulfilled.Mandy, I have a question for you: Have you ever read in the scriptures: The…[Read more]

“Behold, My servant shall prosper, he shall be exalted and lifted up, . . . for he shot up right forth as a sapling, and as a root out of a dry ground . . . He was despised, and forsaken of men, a man of pains, and acquainted with disease, and as one from whom men hide their face: He was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely our diseases he d…[Read more]