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    david replied to the topic Jesus IS the MESSIAH in the forum Faith 18 years, 7 months ago

    2 Cor. 11:14, 15: “Satan himself keeps transforming himself into an angel of light. It is therefore nothing great if his ministers also keep transforming themselves into ministers of righteousness.” (Here we are cautioned that not everything that originates with Satan may appear hideous. One of his chief methods of deceiving mankind has been fal…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic Jesus IS the MESSIAH in the forum Faith 18 years, 7 months ago

    Quote And I'm beginning to think it really doesn't matter which group you belong to because they all have truth. –mandyWell they all have “some” truth, and some have more truth than others, and some have very little truth, and then, there's the satan worshippers.Quote we have David (a sold-out JW who loves God and is convinced of his dogma; there…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic Jesus IS the MESSIAH in the forum Faith 18 years, 7 months ago

    cAN'T go wrong with becoming a librarian.

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    Quote Hi david,You boast of the fact that others find you way bizarre and drenched in human wisdom and foolish logicas if being shown these things was evidence it was the path of truth? Nick, your complete MISrepresentation of everything I say continues to astound me, despite the many years.I have seen others on here get frustrated over you doing…[Read more]

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    Quote So your stance regarding WWII and letting Hitler take over rather than nations defending themselves against him is just your opinion and I would be careful about judging such things.I don't remeber ever saying “let hitler take over.”What I actually did say was “What does a Christian have to do with the world or it's wars”?Quote If God gave…[Read more]

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    T8, your other post:Quote OK, so if Israel is attacked by Moslem forces, then the Israelites should let them take over? Have I deduced correctly from your words.Apparently not. I think you missed the “that scenerio would never happen” part. Israel would never do that. Fleshly Israel is no longer God’s people. They fight with bullets now, not m…[Read more]

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    Quote David if you could only see how ridiculous it is when these groups all claim to be the right one. Even logically speaking the stats are against each one. Perhaps 50 thousand to one that they are the right one. OK, I can see you are having trouble with this idea. Jesus came and showed us the way. Satan came and showed us thousands of…[Read more]

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    Continuing:Quote david if you were not so brainwashed you would see clearly that the JWs could not possibly be the true Body of Christ. In the same way that you may look at Mormons and feel sorry for them because they believe that they are the true Church, they equally think the same for you.The thing is T8, the entire world is brainwashed, or at…[Read more]

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    Continuing:Quote Or what about the Armstrong WWC. Their magazines may have even out distributed the Watchtower ones.Again, you’re wrong. I don’t even feel like checking this one, as I’m sure you haven’t either, again, but sources have listed “The Watchtower Announcing Jehovah’s Kingdom” as the “most widely distributed religious journal on the…[Read more]

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    Quote “So like I said, your faith is based on the premise that the JWs are the true Church because they actively witness from door to door.So maybe vacuum cleaner sales men are the true Church based on that?”No, but the true faith would have to be preaching the good news in all the nations. The scripture doesn’t say: “And vacuum cleaner salemen…[Read more]

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    “everlasting destruction.” This can only mean you are destroyed without hope of life ever ever ever again.It cannot mean you are in a steady state of destruction for eternity, for that is a paradox. If one is constantly being destroyed, but never ever is actually destroyed, then you are not being destroyed.For the word destroyed means you…[Read more]

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    Quote Maybe they didn't.So you're not sure? Could you list some things that you are 100% sure of….anything?

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    Gene, you wrote:Quote david ……Jw's use those teachings to control people and get them fearfull in order to get more members, The firey trials that have tried us as if some strange thing has happened unto us, is the same trials that will try the rest of man kind only more severely . God himself is the (CONSUMMING FIRE) just as the scriptures…[Read more]

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    Did the U.S. land on the moon? How do you know?

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    Quote I think my study of scripture actually has greater depth than yours does, because my reading between the lines is not clouded by wishful thinking.–stu (Jesus is Messiah, thread)Quote I deny that Jesus is the messiah, and I don't think he ever actually claimed to be so. –stu, this thread.JOHN 4:25-26“The woman said to him: “I know that Mes…[Read more]

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    Quote I think RW's opinion on war is that it is an inevitable situation that man will always find himself in because of his nature. War does not follow Christ's teachings, but God allows it to occur as man continues to follow his own way. –broncsDEUTERONOMY 32:5“They have acted ruinously on their own part; They are not his children, the defect i…[Read more]

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    Quote We are stewards of God's creation and I don't think he wants us to give up on this world because at some unspecified time in the future it may end. –Cato1 JOHN 2:15-17“Do not be loving either the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him; because everything in the world—the desire of…[Read more]

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    Yes it's “Peter.”So, now that you've found the scripture, let's try to grasp the most basic, simplest, truth from it.If an authority tells you to not speak to others about God Nick, what would you do?

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    “Look! The day of Jehovah itself is coming, cruel both with fury and with BURNING anger, in order to make the land an object of astonishment, and that it may ANNIHILATE the land’s sinners out of it.” Zephaniah 1:15In Malachi 1:4, I don't believe people will be turned into “stubble” the part of the crop left after harvesting. I do believe that…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic Jesus IS the MESSIAH in the forum Faith 18 years, 7 months ago

    Regarding Daniel 9, for example, it is and can be puzzling. But I believe it is worth every effort.A wise person will listen and take in more instruction, and a man of understanding is the one who acquires skillful direction, to understand a proverb and a puzzling saying, the words of wise persons and their riddles. Prov 1:5,6

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