To find out why God allows suffering, we need to think back to the time when suffering began. When Satan led Adam and Eve into disobeying Jehovah, an important question was raised. Satan did not call into question Jehovah’s power. Even Satan knows that there is no limit to Jehovah’s power. Rather, Satan questioned Jehovah’s right to rule. By calli…[Read more]

A spirit son of God (Satan) rebelled and set out to thwart Jehovah’s purpose, abusing the divine gift of free will. He disturbed the peace that comes to all who manifest loving submission to Jehovah’s sovereignty. Satan led the first human couple to embark on a course of independence from God. (Genesis 3:1-6) He did not deny Jehovah’s power, but h…[Read more]

ISSUE OF UNIVERSAL SOVEREIGNTY:As God’s children, Adam and Eve had the opportunity to live forever on earth, provided that they obeyed their heavenly Father. He placed only one restriction upon them. “From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction,” said Jehovah, “but as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad you must not eat fro…[Read more]

Continuing on, and at the same time, turning the conversation back to the messiah:What do we expect that a ruler would do when there was an outright rebellion in his realm? Those who are familiar with history can recall some such instances. Rather than ignoring the matter, usually a sovereign—even a benevolent ruler—would render judgment aga…[Read more]

Something I haven't actually really ever heard on here is the actual explanation of why wickedness and sufferering are allowed, why God allows them, why the world is the way it is, etc.The reason why God has permitted wickedness to exist until our day is related to events that happened early in human history. An incident that took place back then…[Read more]

A great, mighty, fear-inspiring God, yet impartial and lovingly defending the interests of orphans, widows, and alien residents. Firmness where necessary, mercy where possible.Our loving, merciful God declares: “As I am alive, . . . I take delight, not in the death of the wicked one, but in that someone wicked turns back from his way and a…[Read more]

Anyone wanna talk about the trinity in this thread? Haven't discussed that here yet.

Quote what is the hebrew word used for “Lord,” “God,” and “gods” in Exodus 20:2-3?”I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.”Of course, the word for “lord” is not really contained in this verse. The fact that it is in large letters signifies that…[Read more]

Sorry about that. Somehow I was sucked into the off topic whatever that is going on in this thread.There are so many “chat” threads that these things could be discussed on…

Quote Satan in Job is certainly not an enemy of God.Does not the word “Satan” mean “opposer” or “resister”?Are ones who resist or oppose you considered friends or enemies?

1 CORINTHIANS 10:20-22“I say that the things which the nations sacrifice they sacrifice to demons, and not to God, and I do not want you to become sharers with the demons. You cannot be drinking the cup of Jehovah and the cup of demons; you cannot be partaking of ‘the table of Jehovah’ and the table of demons. Or ‘are we inciting Jehovah to jeal…[Read more]

Quote David are you saying that you feel the whole of the Hebrew scriptures was done away with?A covenant is an agreement between two parties. In this case God and the nation of israel.The terms of the Law covenant were that if the Israelites kept the covenant they would be a people for the name of Jehovah, a kingdom of priests and a holy nation,…[Read more]

Quote If you really want to draw it out further, if the 10 commandments were done away with then there really was no need for Paul to correct the corinthians in their mishandling of a sinning brother to begin with.Please explain using scriptures.Quote Now if Christ made sure to spell out a change in procedure, certainly He would have spelled out a…[Read more]

Quote David are you saying that you feel the whole of the Hebrew scriptures was done away with?–gnipp gnopp.No, I am saying that: the sacrificial death of Jesus, in 33 C.E., “blotted out,” or “abolished,” the Law and with it the “commandment to collect tithes.”—Colossians 2:13, 14; Ephesians 2:13-15; Hebrews 7:5, 18.See page 55 of this thread r…[Read more]

Quote The Jews looked for a deliverer and they never got one. Exactly right. They looked for a deliverer. Someone to save them from the yoke of Rome. Someone to give them triumph and power. And they were expecting him to come just around the time Jesus arrived. But THAT PERSON never showed. Yet, the messiah did arrive, exactly on time, and…[Read more]

Yes, I don't doubt that there were many false messiahs around the time of Jesus. Perhaps that is because they were in expectation of the messiah around that time, and hence were seeing them everywhere. There seem to be more messiahs around this time, I think, because this is around the time he was expected, as the quotes I gave show.But the fact…[Read more]

The Hebrew word ‛oh·laḿ carries the thought of indefinite or uncertain time. Lexicographer Gesenius defines it as meaning “hidden time, i.e. obscure and long, of which the beginning or end is uncertain or indefinite.” (A Hebrew and English Lexicon of the Old Testament, translated by E. Robinson, 1836, p. 746)The word ‛oh·laḿ is at times assoc…[Read more]

Quote Greetings David…..What about Jesus'assertion that “He did not come to change the Law but to fullfill it”,that was to bare out and fullfill the prophesies of the OT as well as the law given by the Father….To fullfill the law as I would think would be to obey and live under or by it…. In addition after reading Lev.23 I would think the…[Read more]

Quote Quote (theodorej @ Mar. 18 2008,22:31)Greetings David…..What about Jesus'assertion that “He did not come to change the Law but to fullfill it”,that was to bare out and fullfill the prophesies of the OT as well as the law given by the Father….To fullfill the law as I would think would be to obey and live under or by it…. In addition…[Read more]

If they were expecting the messiah right around the time Jesus arrived, I wonder what would get in the way for them recognizing Jesus?Oh, that's right–false expectations.While rightly understanding that messiah was to arrive, they were out of line with why he was to arrive. Of course, they were out of line with a lot of things, and their…[Read more]