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    I have a question Stu.How would you explain it then? All around the world, in locations as far apart as Alaska and the South Sea Islands, there are ancient stories about it. Native, pre-Columbian civilizations of America, as well as Aborigines of Australia, all have stories about the Flood. While some of the accounts differ in detail, the basic…[Read more]

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    Geology professor John McCampbell once wrote: “The essential differences between Biblical catastrophism and evolutionary uniformitarianism are not over the factual data of geology but over the interpretations of those data. The interpretation preferred will depend largely upon the background and presuppositions of the individual s…[Read more]

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    Quote So it is spurious then. Why did you mention it?I mention it because it apparently is possible for geologists to believe one thing for years, when water was really the cause.If we grant that a great flood could have happened, why have scientists found no trace of it? Perhaps they have, but they interpret the evidence some other way. For…[Read more]

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    Quote but continuing to assert scientific hypotheses that have already been disprovedJust for the record, why don't you tell me what has been disproved.

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    Quote Wind, sand and and water (in liquid or solid states) cause almost all erosion.Are we just trying to make this sound more mysterious?No, the nova special I watched today kept saying they considered it “heresy.” They used that word a few times. It was because this whole thing was sounding too much like the flood of noah's day. The other…[Read more]

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    Quote I've had the bit about the earth 'being flatter in the past', from a visiting JW.The New Encyclopædia Britannica says: “The average depth of all the seas has been estimated at 3,790 metres (12,430 feet), a figure considerably larger than that of the average elevation of the land above the sea level, which is 840 metres (2,760 feet). If th…[Read more]

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    Quote (Stu @ April 01 2008,17:18)Quote I just finished watching a nova special on the scablands of the U.S. Forever everyone believed that they were caused by millions of years of slow erosion. It was “heresy” when someone suggested it was caused by water. Decades later, we know it was caused by a lake being damned by a glacier and the lake grew…[Read more]

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    Quote I'm having difficulty getting a scientific answer,As am i. As it turns out, no scientist has taken trillions of plants and submerged them in water to see what happens.

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    Quote The Survival of Plant SpeciesMost plant communities would not be able to survive the conditions of the flood, for several reasons:1. The seeds would soak in salt water for a year.2. During this year, plant seeds would be subject to abrasion and damage by sediment-laden water. If the seed shells were cut during the flood, the chances of its…[Read more]

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    Quote Wouldn't their seeds still germinate and start a new generation of plants and trees after the flood?Many seeds are presoaked in water to help them to germinate.That's what I was thinking too. And the odd tree (one out of a million) might have survived, if it was the right species.Have we ever tested this?

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    Quote That being the case, that begs this big question: with 270 in existence, it would seem that the biblical account — while having some small basis of truth — has 269 other versions vying for their own piece of the “truth” pie.Yet….if these “legends” occur all over the world, they must be based on something. If this was just a minor flood,…[Read more]

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    If the flood took place around 2300 BCE, and the earth was covered in water 15 cubits above the highest mountain for 150 days, how did these trees survive? From First, about the “highest mountain.” I believe the earth used to be a lot flatter. The deluge (literally “heavenly ocean”) would have an impact on the earth. With the sudden opening of…[Read more]

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    Authenticity AffirmedIn the Scriptures, Noah appears in two genealogies of the nation of Israel, the second culminating in Jesus Christ. (1 Chronicles 1:4; Luke 3:36) Ezra and Luke, the compilers of these genealogies, were both skilled historians and must have believed that Noah was a real person.Elsewhere in the Bible, Noah is listed alongside…[Read more]

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    Anthropologists have collected as many as 270 flood legends from nearly all tribes and nations. “The flood story is found throughout the world,” says scholar Claus Westermann. “Like the creation narrative, it is part of our basic cultural heritage. It is truly astonishing: everywhere on earth we find stories of a great primeval flood.” The explana…[Read more]

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    In times past, certain primitive people (in Australia, Egypt, Fiji, Society Islands, Peru, Mexico, and other places) preserved a possible remnant of these traditions about the Flood by observing in November a ‘Feast of Ancestors’ or a ‘Festival of the Dead.’ Such customs reflected a memory of the destruction caused by the Deluge. According to the…[Read more]

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    Kejonn, start by googling any of these:Australia – Kurnai Destruction by Water Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a VesselBabylon – Berossus’ account Destruction by Water Warning Given Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a VesselBabylon – Gilgamesh epic Destruction by Water Divine Cause Warning Given Humans Spared Animals Spared P…[Read more]

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    Quote “Lord Jesus…” and when I ended it was always “In Jesus's name”.But for some reason (probably Satan trying to confuse me) I suddenly wondered to myself “is praying to Jesus wrong – is it idoltry?” I'm glad to see I was NOT wrong to pray this way. Hi AS.I'm still somewhat confused by your understanding.Quote I've often found when I pray it…[Read more]

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    The Egyptians, the Greeks, the Chinese, the Druids of Britain, the Polynesians, the Eskimos and Greenlanders, the Africans, the Hindus, and the American Indians—all of these have their Flood stories. The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia (Vol. 2, p. 319) states: “Flood stories have been discovered among nearly all nations and tribes. Tho…[Read more]

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    Quote The you do believe in darwin to some extent? I believe that there is a variety of shapes and sizes between each “kind” of animal. The wolf (dog) can become a variety of dogs. But adding an extra toe to a horse or looking at smaller sized horses is not proof of evolution from one species into another. It's proof of diversity.

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    Quote If we were to divide all animals into two groups, invertebrates and vertebrates, an estimated 97% of all species would be invertebrates. Invertebrates include animals that lack backbones such as sponges, cnidarians, molluscs, platyhelminths, annelids, arthropods, and insects, to name just a few. Of all invertebrates, the insects are by…[Read more]

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