Quote Where does it say about presenting things ‘in signs’? Rev 1:3 says keep those things which are written in the prophecy. Not alluded to or hinted at, but written. Like the stars falling off the firmament while it rolls up like a scroll. That is what is written.hmmm. Never noticed that before. The Bible I commonly use has “he sent for…[Read more]

Quote Stu: The bible on the other hand, makes truth claims and many of these can be demonstrated to be untrue.Quote–stuThus far you haven't done this. You're attempting to demonstrate things we don't have answers for. There is a difference. Quote Oh please. Why is the score here 4 – 0?Because the judge is just slightly biased. Moving o…[Read more]

So, I looked up “firmament.” My Bible uses the word “expanse” which is one definition of firmament.fir·ma·ment (fûrm-mnt)n.The vault or expanse of the heavens; the sky.1. sky: the sky, considered as an arch ( literary )2. celebrities' sphere of operation: the world occupied by all the celebrities in a particular field such as the theater or sp…[Read more]

Quote The bible on the other hand, makes truth claims and many of these can be demonstrated to be untrue.Such as?My point of course was that science doesn't know all the answers. Yet, you expect us to know all the answers. Thus far, you have demonstrated that there are some things we don't presently understand.I could say the same of science.…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ April 18 2008,22:13)Quote (david @ April 18 2008,00:00)Question:Would you consider this a true statement:The Zend-Avesta, the sacred Zoroastrian writings, actually contain prayers to fire, to water, and to planets as well as to the light of the sun, moon, and stars. Fire is even referred to as the son of Ahura Mazda.Yes, but none…[Read more]

Quote Yes, but again, it is something from latter Zoroastrianism. The only duality spoken of in the Gathas is the personal duality we all struggle with. Nothing about a good God and a bad one.Which one is right? Latter Zoroastrianism, or the early version? Or at least, which one do you believe in?

Quote If we were to add up the questions scientists currently can't answer, what would that indicate? Anything?No answer then. Let's move on….Quote The bible makes truth claims. And scientists don't?Is there anything that science does know?

That pic of kevin scared me a bit. I always pictured him as more of the simpsons character with the slurpy.

Quote This is about questions that biblical literalists can't answer, and this question is one of those. I'm wondering what the point of this is? If we were to add up the questions scientists currently can't answer, what would that indicate? Anything?It might indicate that we are currently lacking information.Also, when people refuse to answer…[Read more]

Quote Please read the title of the thread. If you are not happy with it, you are free to start a new one.–stuOK, nothing new here. Refuses to answer the hard questions. Shall we move on then?

Concerning the second creative period, or “day,” Genesis 1:6-8 states: “And God went on to say: ‘Let an expanse come to be in between the waters and let a dividing occur between the waters and the waters.’ Then God proceeded to make the expanse and to make a division between the waters that should be beneath the expanse and the waters that shou…[Read more]

Quote The firmament anyone?Big sheet/solid thing in the sky, actually not really there?What are you talking about? Which scripture says there some solid big thing in the sky that is attached to the stars?

Quote (Stu @ April 17 2008,18:49)Quote (david @ April 17 2008,17:15)Is it wrong of him to say who is and who is not fit for life? Or, must we accept wickedness for all time? Must the righteous suffer at the hands of the wicked forever?Suicide bombers make a decision about who is fit for life. The grieving loved ones of those who are killed by…[Read more]

Quote In other words, I'm not going to put a chocolate bar in the middle of the room (or a tree in the middle of the garden) and tell my child that it is good (knowledge of good and evil) and then forbid him from eating it (or partaking of the fruit). He didn't say: “It is good.” “don't eat it.” It was called the tree of the knowledge of good…[Read more]

ANother question:This dualism, does it have God and the Devil always existing together?

Question:Would you consider this a true statement:The Zend-Avesta, the sacred Zoroastrian writings, actually contain prayers to fire, to water, and to planets as well as to the light of the sun, moon, and stars. Fire is even referred to as the son of Ahura Mazda.

Quote the existance of a literal singular “satan” figure. In the Hebrew faith, there is no such figure .–kejonnand then:Quote Even the Satan figure in Job . . .–kejonnWait, wasn't Job a book that formed part of the “Hebrew faith” which had no “satan figure”?

Quote Now I wonder……. I wonder if a Unity church, that accepts all beliefs, would be a good place to raise my children in?Well I know Jesus certainly accepted all beliefs. As did his Father, God. Wait, or did they?We know the 'wizard' likes the idea. So that's something. Questions: Is this unity church a Christian church? If it is, I…[Read more]

Quote Who tells us Paul was a Pharisee? Lets see…I know…Paul! So I guess we are to take his word as “gospel” truth. Plus Paul had his Damascus Road encounter. Before that, he supposedly persecuted Christians.Kejonn, you have this habit where people show you you're plainly wrong and you go off on some other rant. You do it a lot. You said…[Read more]

Quote David,There is a huge difference in what you are implying and what has happened in the OT.My children know the rules of this house, but they certainly will not lose their heads because they disobey me. Yes, I know. But my point was that you said: In seems silly for God to demand we obey the very law he put into place that he knew ahead of…[Read more]