Quote (Stu @ April 25 2008,19:22)Quote (david @ April 25 2008,18:02)Quote This is not in the too hard basket at all. Far from it.http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/how-did-animals-spread stu, is it true that there were once lions in Israel. I can't believe that, because there are no fossils. Were there?And what would this mean for our…[Read more]

Quote 2. To accommodate animals and food the ark is too small. Even if you limit it to the minimum ‘kinds’ there is no reasonable way to fit everything in.Really stu? Which “kinds” were you referring to. Can I see your list.

Quote David,Colter tells us to look at the Urantia papers, they are very detailed, no vague allegories or symbolism. Your defense of the Genesis creation story would apply to them as well. So what is the difference?Colter, I've never read them. Would you mind quoting them.

Quote No scientists says that placing striped rods near cattle can affect cattle genetics. Your bible does. stu, I know you really, really, really WANT it to say that. But “burried in the next chapter” as you say, VERSE 9 to be specific, we are told that God did this. Yes, it is a miracle.““In this way GOD has taken the stock from your father a…[Read more]

Quote The Bible is a combination of only 66 books, with isolated incidents spanning 1000s of years. How does that even compare to the millions possibly billions of incidents of hideous crimes committed on humanity while God sits in the heavens watching and does nothing about it? –WJMy comments to some of these posts are similar.Do these ones get…[Read more]

It is his earth, and he has every right to decide who lives on it.That he has chosen not to make us like robots, I think is a good thing.That he will remove those who are foolish enough to disregard their very maker is also the only just thing that can be done–for those who actually love God.PROVERBS 2:21-22“For the upright are the ones that w…[Read more]

Quote So the only decision a biblical literalist need to make is which of two contradictory versions is the allegorical one. I guess if the two stories do line up then you only need the literal version. –stuNot really stu. This PARABLE and the highly symbolic book of revelation are the only places people get confused on this. It's…[Read more]

Kejonn, the first paragraph, I condensed it for you:Quote WHAT THE PARABLE MEANS–(FIRST, WITHOUT A LOT OF EXPLANATION)The “rich man” represented the self-important religious leaders who are favored with spiritual privileges and opportunities, and who rejected Jesus. (See verse 14.) The beggar Lazarus represented the common Jewish people who were…[Read more]

Quote So Jesus believed in a symbolic hell? How appropriate for your line of reasoning. Hello! Is this thing on?Acts 2:25-27, KJ: “David speaketh concerning him , . . . Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell,* neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.” (The fact that God did not “leave” Jesus in hell implies that Jesus w…[Read more]

Quote when a Christian can't explain it or it does not fit his/her theology, it is symbolic. How utterly convenient for you.Have you even read this parable. Aren't you the one that first called it a “parable”? Explain to me how those things are literal.Actually, first go find the other hell thread and do some research on this parable. I really…[Read more]

Quote If you don’t know the answer, and I can show you evidence that says the bible cannot be right, –stuI thought that's what you were attempting to do. My mistake.Quote No scientists says that placing striped rods near cattle can affect cattle genetics. Your bible does. Where does it say that? Didn't you read further down where it says God d…[Read more]

Quote Science accepts it could be wrong, but gives the best evidence-based theory it can. –stuJust out of curiosity, what is science wrong about? Science accepts it could be wrong, but it isn't ever wrong, until it is proven.I accept the Bible “could” be wrong, but it isnt, until it is proven.These seem very similar to me.The difference is that…[Read more]

Quote This is not in the too hard basket at all. Far from it.http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/how-did-animals-spread stu, is it true that there were once lions in Israel. I can't believe that, because there are no fossils. Were there?And what would this mean for our kiwi?

Quote Sorry IS, but the Hebrew scriptures were written to Hebrew people, not Christians. Christians just hijacked them, retranslated, and reinterpreted for their own purposes. Isaiah 45:7 is a thorn in the fundamentalist Christian's side. Perhaps the thorn Paul had was that the OT was still in existence? Sorry Kejonn, but again, you're…[Read more]

Quote Many have been saying all along that much of current Christianity was influenced by older ideas. Yes, the most common false religious beliefs come from babylon–immortal soul, hell, trinity, etc. The beliefs that most religions share had this common source.That is why the Bible calls false religion babylon the great.And the fact that…[Read more]

Quote It's not surprising that no one seems willing to defend this one. Why should you try? Indeed, Why? You ask questions that we often don't know the answers to. And then you act like that means something, anymore than me asking you something science doesn't have an answer for.But, concerning your question (which is a false one) you ask: can…[Read more]

2 Thess. 1:9, RS: “They shall suffer the punishment of eternal destruction* and exclusion from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might.” (*“Eternal ruin,” NAB, NE; “lost eternally,” JB; “condemn them to eternal punishment,” Kx; “eternal punishment in destruction,” Dy.)In ancient Babylonian and Assyrian beliefs the “nether world .…[Read more]

Quote tormentedDid you know that back then, Jailers were called “tormenters.” The very imprisonment itself was considered torment.You forgot to highlight this part:Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire.I suppose “death” and “hell” will also be tormented. Well, they will be “jailed” so to speak in “the lake of fire. This is the…[Read more]

Quote Pardon, the lake of fire. But there is no difference in the final result, the bible says people will be cast in the lake of fire.Very good. and what does the Bible say the lake of fire is? “the second DEATH.”Referring to that symbolic lake, in which even “hell” is cast, we are told: “this means the second death.”Apparently, the “second…[Read more]

Quote Sir Arthur Conan-Doyle, typically for a Victorian writer, gives very precise descriptions of Sherlock Holmes.To illustrate this, he would often pick a stranger and, by observing him, deduce his occupation and recent activities. These skills cause him to be considered a pioneer in forensic science (forensic pathology in particular) in a time…[Read more]