Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Nov. 19 2013,02:09)Quote (david @ Nov. 17 2013,16:22)Why do we think el shaddai means “god suffices.”  It's hard finding information to that effect.That's it?   There is no word in Hebrew nor in Greek that is equivalent to our English word “almighty.” The Hebrew el shaddai means “God suffices,” and the Greek pantakrator m…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 19 2013,04:43)David,Is the Father a god?Wouldn't 'the God' be 'a god?'If so, reading the verse, John 1:1c as 'a god' really doesn't tell us that a god who may be spoken about in 1c is not the God. The article is absent when the scripture is speaking about 'the God' many times. The Greek word 'theos' is written with the…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 18 2013,17:11)Quote (david @ Nov. 18 2013,00:49)Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 18 2013,02:50)David,Quote People really don't like talking about this, which is highly weird, given that the very first chance ANYONE had who could put an indefinite article in John 1:1, they did!  They did this at a time when koine Greek was still spoken!…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Nov. 17 2013,05:48)We all have seen the shallow argument which is put forth by the Jehovah's Witnesses. It goes like this, “The Father is the almighty God. But Jesus is lesser in power and is just a mighty God.”However, I have some bad news for the JW's. There is no Hebrew or Greek word that is equivalent to our English word…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 18 2013,02:26)People really don't like talking about this, which is highly weird, given that the very first chance ANYONE had who could put an indefinite article in John 1:1, they did!  They did this at a time when koine Greek was still spoken!  They did this with a language based on the Greek alphabet. Greek, Latin, those l…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 18 2013,02:50)David,Quote People really don't like talking about this, which is highly weird, given that the very first chance ANYONE had who could put an indefinite article in John 1:1, they did!  They did this at a time when koine Greek was still spoken!  They did this with a language based on the Greek alphabet. Pure s…[Read more]

1800 years ago, it was translated into Coptic, which does have the indefinite article in it's language (unlike Greek, Latin, syriac, aramaic, and most every language that existed for a millenium). And the translators, who lived at a time when koine Greek was still spoken and at a time when they definitely understood it, tranlsated john 1:1c with…[Read more]

1800 years ago, it was translated into Coptic, which does have the indefinite article in it's language (unlike Greek, Latin, syriac, aramaic, and most every language that existed for a millenium). And the translators, who lived at a time when koine Greek was still spoken and at a time when they definitely understood it, tranlsated john 1:1c with…[Read more]

Wikipedia:As mentioned above there are two words in Hebrew that could be the origin of Shaddai: “shada” and “shadad” meaning to nurture and destroy respectively. They are derived from two Semetic root words, one meaning breast or fertility and the other meaning to lay waste, desolate, or bring to ruin. Shaddai can mean either “my sustainers” or…[Read more]

El shaddai Wikipedia:The translation team behind the New Jerusalem Bible (NJB) however maintain that the meaning is uncertain, and that translating “El Shaddai” as “Almighty God” is inaccurate. The NJB leaves it untranslated as “Shaddai,” and makes footnote suggestions that it should perhaps be understood as “God of the Mountain” from the Accadian…[Read more]

There are others who say el shaddai would mean: self sufficient or all sufficient.

http://Www.hebrew4christians.com“Most English translations render El Shaddai as “God Almighty,” probably because the translators of the Septuagint (i.e., the Greek translation of the Old Testament) thought Shaddai came from a root verb (shadad) that means “to overpower” or “to destroy.” The Latin Vulgate likewise translated Shaddai as “Omnipotens” (from…[Read more]

El (translated God) “strength, might, or power.” Shaddai ?

Some say Shaddai might mean mountainAnd el shaddai: “God, the one of the mountain.” The closest association of Shaddai is to the Akkadian is Shadu (mountain)

Quote The JWs (or any other non-Trinitarian, for that matter) don't actually NEED the word “Almighty” to make that claim, Jack.And yet, they, and others do. I myself have about 10 times pointed out that “almighty” is used with reference to the father 43 times. Trinitarians believe it refers to Jesus once (or maybe twice) in revelation. But that…[Read more]

Yes, breasted one, or for him, a reference to the chest, or figuratively, power? Don't know if that's true. But that's how people who want to get to the word “almighty” reason. Quick check of Wikipedia shows that it can mean breasted one, or about 5 other things. Weird things. Still have no idea why Kj thinks it has something to do with…[Read more]

People really don't like talking about this, which is highly weird, given that the very first chance ANYONE had who could put an indefinite article in John 1:1, they did! They did this at a time when koine Greek was still spoken! They did this with a language based on the Greek alphabet. Greek, Latin, those languages back then–no indefinite…[Read more]

John 1:1

Why do we think el shaddai means “god suffices.” It's hard finding information to that effect.

Quote Hmmm……….. Why is that only “bad news” for the JWs? Wouldn't it be equally “bad news” for EVERY English Bible that has the word “Almighty” in itYa, that was my exact first thought. It's an interesting idea. But wouldn't it be an interesting argument against all trinitarians. I often feel like the non-trinity is presented as a JW…[Read more]