Quote From what I can tell, we are still in the 7th day today!Right, and if we are still in the 7th day, what does this tell us about the length of days. We notice too, that at Genesis 2:4 (I think that's the verse) all those days are lumped into one day, in the day God created heaven and earth. So the term day isn't meant to be a 24 hour day…[Read more]

Quote It would have removed ancient cave paintings. Why are they still there?So you can't or don't want to answer the question then? If that' the case, I'd stop speaking about mountains.

“If the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you. . . . A slave is not greater than his master. If they have persecuted me, they will persecute you also.” (John 15:18, 20) Why would they be hated?Because, like Jesus, they are “no part of the world.” (John 17:14, 16) ie: They are not politically or worldy correct…[Read more]

Quote Is this why people followed him everywhere? No, it's why they killed him, some of his followers, persecuted others, etc.Quote If Jesus wasn't popular I'll eat my bikini No need to do that! Maybe popular was the wrong word. “liked.” The majority didn't like him. Yes, he was well known, but most didn't follow him. A lot did, but many…[Read more]

Quote Well no wonder he is here, then. He cannot “speak his mind at home….”. Mandy, does it make sense to you, at all, for him to believe that JW's are a “daughter of the whore of babylon” and to speak negatively about the many things he disagrees with…. and yet, for him to go to our meetings?Quote It sounds like JW's demand complete…[Read more]

Wikipedia says:”If a baptised Witness begins to teach doctrines contrary to Witness doctrines it is grounds for disfellowshipping for apostasy. This action is taken after the elders try to reason with him.”This is the reason I kept questioning whether he was or at least, would remain a witness of Jehovah. On this forum, he is of course very open…[Read more]

Quote Well, according to David you better not do it in public!Mandy, I'm not a democrat or a republican, but if I was a democrat and I joined the republican party and became involved, and a representative of that party, how would it go if I made my true feelings known?

yes, the “brothers” scripture. Paul once said that he was “in dangers among false brothers.” (2 cor 11:26)I just fear this might be what you are.And I have very little evidence to the contrary.Gal 2:4 also mentions “the false brothers brought in quietly…”It appears there can be “false brothers” in the congregation and that these ones are a…[Read more]

Quote Gosh, David, this would be difficult to determine who is “pushing ahead” and who isn't though? Right? I mean, so far DK has shown some good fruit here….. Yes, on here. My main problem is that he is essentially lying to people back home, in his congregation. He's pretending everything is well, when he thinks they are part of the whore…[Read more]

It should be noted that it's for the protection of the congregation and the wellfare of the individual that he is disfellowshipped. He can be re-instated if he wants to be. But, he cannot be allowed to persuade others on the same course he is on. 1 CORINTHIANS 15:33“Do not be misled. Bad associations spoil useful habits.”

Not that any of this would happen with Dirty knections.If he was doing anything wrong, he'd be asked to quite it. If he persisted, maybe he'd be reproved. People only really get disfellowshiped when they are unrepentant, and willfully practice sin.

2 JOHN 9-10“Everyone that pushes ahead and does not remain in the teaching of the Christ does not have God. He that does remain in this teaching is the one that has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to YOU and does not bring this teaching, never receive him into YOUR homes or say a greeting to him.”Quote When Christians have various bel…[Read more]

Quote DK, would being disfellowshiped even be biblical?Casey, Oct 26, page 38Truth or Tradition, JW church”Regarding disfellowshipping from the verses you listed (which I was very familiar with) we are in agreement. I was simply not informed of the actual reasons that led to the steps and process administered. The strange thing is I now think the…[Read more]

Quote I know because I have the gift of tongues and I use this gift in prayer at times.So you've never actually spoken any other languages then?

Quote alright I am letting this thread die…I shall no longer respond to personal attacksMy only real attack is that you continue to attack JW's, and are most likely an apostate or soon to be one who will be removed.

Quote I just recently met with the Body to discuss my views.Out of curiosity, who called this meeting? Yes, I know you're not DF'd. We've been over that. Presently, you are considered a JW's. Quote But I do not PROMOTE my beliefs in the Hall..becasue I do not want to subvert the faith of others…simply put my beliefs are my beliefs..until you…[Read more]

At 1 Corinthians 13:8 reference is made to several miraculous gifts—prophecy, tongues, and knowledge. Verse 9 again refers to two of these gifts—knowledge and prophecy—saying: “For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.” (KJ) Or, as RS reads: “For our knowledge is imperfect and our prophecy is imperfect.” Then verse 10 states: “But when tha…[Read more]

Dirty, I was really confused as to why you still congregate with JW’s. But now I understand. You are, by definition, an apostate. You go to their meetings, but consider them “Another daughter of the whore preaching a false gospel.” Nick said those words regarding JW's and you agreed with him saying 'Sad “but true.”&…[Read more]

Quote Then the gift of interpretation would still be need in a church service today if we had a similar scenario?as I said, we have translators. Back then, when there was an actual need for such things, yes, some had the special gift of translating.Today, things are different. For example, today, the Bible is available in whole or part in…[Read more]

Simon was “beholding signs and great powerful works taking place.”This magician, Simon, wanted to be able to do those same things he saw, those amazing things.“Now when Simon saw that THROUGH THE LAYING ON THE HANDS OF THE APOSTLES the spirit was given, he offered them money,”Read for yourself the reported cases when the gift of tongues…[Read more]