Quote Nick, is disfellowshipping or ex-communication a scriptural practice?–meQuote Hi David,Only from the body of Christ. Hi Nick. And how would someone be disfellowshiped or ex-communicated?In the earliest congregations, it's clear this was practiced. How do you Nick and those who you fellowship with practice this scripturally based teaching…

Quote First time I've been considered “liberal”! lolRight, I wouldn't say you're liberal, Seeking. I was merely pointing out that that translation was quite liberal with there translation, as you yourself state:Quote I agree that the words are “people for His name” instead of “himself”Seeking, the scripture I orginally wanted you to comment on,…[Read more]

Quote Well Jehovah is God in Hebrew language I think, and I don't think it is used in the O.T. very much. It is used thousands of times, far more than “God” “Lord” “Almighty” “Father” “Creator” etc COMBINED!

Quote Per BibleGateway, Jehovah is used 5822 times in the OT, 0 times in the NT, Why is that?Because the materials the Greek scriptures were written on didn't last nearly as long as the materials the hebrew scriptures were written on. We don't have the earliest Greek manuscripts, only copies of copies.Because the Jews of that era misunderstood…[Read more]

Quote As to the NT scripture you referenced “to take out of them a people for his name.” to me it reads much as translated by the NIV 14Simom has described to us how God at first showed his concern by taking from the Gentiles a people for himself.Yes, some more liberal less literal translations translate it this way. But I don't believe it says “…[Read more]

Quote SeekingT, how do you feel about this scripture?Isa. 12:4: “Give thanks to Jehovah, you people! Call upon his name. Make known among the peoples his dealings. Make mention that his name is put on high.”And scriptures like this?It's clear that Jehovah himself puts emphasis on his name (it being included in holy scriptures about 7000 tim…[Read more]

M’Clintock and Strong’s Cyclopaedia says that it is “an uncontested statement that during the first hundred years after the death of the apostles we hear little or nothing of the working of miracles by the early Christians.” (Vol. VI, p. 320) “Whether there are tongues, they will be done away with.”Nevertheless, Jesus and his apostles warned…[Read more]

Nick, is disfellowshipping or ex-communication a scriptural practice?Nick, this is a yes or no question. Please, just yes or no. Or even, an yes, or no, and then you can go on about something else. But can you answer this question. Yes, or no?

Just for the record, if you were one of those people who were born into a family who happens to be Jehovah’s Witnesses, and you decide not to be, and there is division in your family because of this–this was foretold as a part of true Christianity. (Mat 10:34-37)And for those who don’t know, if you are born into a JW family and do not choose to be…[Read more]

Quote We are not even to say a greeting to them. Not even “hello”.I ask…is this view of ex-communication scriptural…Quoting what JW's believe “However, regarding any who were Christians but later repudiated the Christian congregation or were expelled from it, the apostle Paul commanded: “Quit mixing in company with” such a one; and the apo…[Read more]

Why don't we actually discuss the scriptures involved?

Quote The Catholic Church uses that too.I was under the impression that several churches believe in ex-communication, but few practice it. Is this correct?

Here's what JW's say about “expelling” (Insight book). . . In the congregation of God it is exercised to maintain the purity of the organization doctrinally and morally. The exercise of this power is necessary to the continued existence of the organization and particularly so the Christian congregation. The congregation must remain clean and…[Read more]

Quote Why would you go to a church that teachs or preachs such things?–WJWJ, I think we've been over this. He's essentially an apostate or at least, well on his way.

Quote Morning and evening, means to me morning and evening a 24 hr. day, –Irene.Irene, if one were to take out those words, morning and evening, there wouldn't be the slightest question that it is not referring to epoch's of time. All the things Mannequins asked, they all indicate that this is not 24 hour days. I'd be interested in your…[Read more]

Quote God has seen every thing from the beginning to eternity.Well that's no fun. I could fastforward the movie to the end to see what the ending will be, but where's the fun in that.Having the power to do something (ie: know the future, or even control events so the future becomes what you want) does not mean one has to excersice those powers.…[Read more]

Quote Dear Mannequins,Don't you think the whole Genesis Creation story is allegorical? Do you really think the creation of the universe could be put down in a few verses to people with no knowledge of physics and science without resulting to oversimplification and symbolism? –cato.Yes Cato, the creation of the universe could be put down in a few…[Read more]

Quote believe that we are still in the sixth day rather than the 7th. hi 94. As far as I can tell, of each of the six creative days concludes with the statement: “And there came to be evening and there came to be morning” a first, second, third, fourth, fifth, and sixth day. (Ge 1:5, 8, 13, 19, 23, 31) The seventh day, however, does not have thi…[Read more]

Quote And also, Genesis 2:4 refers to the entire process of the heavens and earth being created as one “day”. So why then should I believe the first passages that refer to a “day” as being just 24 hours each?Sorry. I had missed that you said this. You're exactly right. If all these days are lumped into one “day” it's obvious that these are not…[Read more]

Quote 1. Genesis 2:18 God says “It is not good for the man to continue by himself.” Also, in verse 23 it says, “This is AT LAST bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh.”Would this phrasing have been used had it been but a few hours since Adam had been created? I don't think so. It seems as though he would have had to have been created for…[Read more]