Quote (Rev 1:7-8 ESV) Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all tribes of the earth will wail on account of him. Even so. Amen. (8) “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”, ….. “this says that someone “is coming.” Who…[Read more]

Quote No David. The Greek language is not ambiguous; it is the interpretation of it. Haven’t you figured that out yet?Which is more ambiguous?  1. Either “the Rock” or “a rock”2. The Rock3. a RockClearly, #1 is the most ambigous.  In Greek, many times we come across words that don't have the indefinite article (a) and yet, they require that ind…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 05 2008,12:09)Hi DavidQuote (david @ Nov. 04 2008,13:44)Add to this the apostate political deeply a part of the world establishement that ruled for so long, and that crushed people that went against it, how was anyone to argue?  Sure, there are many English translation of Bibles written by trinitarians a thousand…[Read more]

Quote Hi AllThe following is a link to a NY times article concerning the Coptic and one of the oldest finds.It is in Adobe format, so you will need to have Adobe reader.Click Here!Thankyou for the link WJ.  It's very interesting.  It appears to have come out very very shortly after the find of the coptic codex.“The codex is the oldest known c…[Read more]

Summing up, again, and bringing us back to what this discussion is about:The Greek of John 1:1 has no indefinite article. (“a”) So, if someone translates it into a language that does have indefinite articles (such as English, Coptic, etc) the translator must put the “a” or “an” in where it is needed. (Every English Bible does this thousands of…[Read more]

https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=20;t=2103;st=10For the sake of clarity, here is WJ's words in full. (I believe this must be what you referred to about me apparently chopping your quotes:)”This is a distortion of the truth. The whole point of John 1:1c not having the definite article is to show that “The Word” is not…[Read more]

Quote Again, there are thousands of scriptures in the 27 NT books of the Bible and not once is Yahshua referred to as “a god”.See John 1:1c.

Quote The Greek translated into English which like the Coptic has an indefinite article, interprets John 1:1c without ambiguity also.WJ, of course, English is unambiguous, as it has the definite and indefinite articles.  GREEK DOESN'T.  Let me repeat that for the 43d time.  GREEK DOESN'T.–The Greek certainly can be argued this way or that way to…[Read more]

Quote err slurpI new that would be the only way to get you here david!————–Every morning is the dawn of a new error…Windows: has just detected another pane in the glass.Press any key to continue or any other key to quit…in peace.Yes the cat!Yes, but on the other hand, you have different fingers.

Quote perhaps even the Jehovah witnesses can BE found there also LOOKING FOR ETERNAL LIFE IN A KILLING?Charity, what exactly are you saying here?Jhentux, Quote Why there are so many denominations,2 CORINTHIANS 4:4“among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good n…[Read more]

Quote After all the Greek word used by the Apostle John in writing John 1:1c is “Theos”, which means “God” not godlike or divine.Forgot to address this, because it is ridiculously absurd.  THERE IS NO INDEFINITE ARTICLE IN THE GREEK LANGUAGE.  But if that's the level we're at, why don't I say: But there is a definite article (The).  That def…[Read more]

Quote according to Jeff Benner , the word Elohim means (POWERS) But since it is used with reference to an intelligent being, when applied to such, it has to mean “powerful one.” But yes, the word origin, may just mean “power/strength,mightiness” etc.But if you try to replace “God” with “powers” in your Bible, the meaning will change significantly.

WJ, I would like to address this post more fully later, but I have little time now.Quote tell me David, how is the Coptic “More Specific” since it is “another translation” by scholars?So you would have us believe that the Coptic translators “alone” understood Greek and that all others are biased or wrong.No, WJ, I never ever said the early Coptic…[Read more]

Quote I merely posed the question that if I allowed my adult son to do a wicked deed and did not intervene, should I share in the responsibility?Why is it necessary to insinuate that I am” trying to blame God” for something?If someone is responsible for something, then they are to blame. If they share the responsibility, then they share the bla…[Read more]

WJ, I'm looking for those “apostolic fathers” threads you gave a while back, supposedly showing that they believed Jesus is God Almighty. I can't find them. Could you help? Or do you have the links somewhere?

Quote I must admit, I stand in awe of your patience.Thank you for taking the time to defend your point of view.There's really not much here to defend Tim. As you notice, no one seems to argue with this. All they can say is that “God” is an abstract noun. WRONG. I really wish more people were disagreeing with me. I tend to work a lot harder…[Read more]

Quote Hi David,If I watched my adult child beat his dog to death and did nothing to intervene,would I not have some share in the responsibility?TimYes, you raised your child badly. You should have taught him that such things are wrong. I had said:Quote I would say Satan, the god of this world, is the one responsible for much of the wickedness we…[Read more]

Quote There are literally dozens of scriptures that show God being the one who ultimately is the cause of everything from plagues to povertyI would say Satan, the god of this world, is the one responsible for much of the wickedness we see. God Almighty allows it, but is that the same as “causing” it?

http://members.aol.com/JAlw/trinity_forgery.html“During the twelve hundred years between Bishop Clement's first mention of John's gospel in about 200 AD, until about 1500 AD, there appeared five thousand Greek manuscripts of the New Testament, but only eight contain the comma, and these eight appeared only after 1400 AD, thirteen hundred years…[Read more]

Quote Re the dimentions of the ark, you can't make a seaworthy boat that long.They didn't need a boat, they didn't need a thing they could control or direct. They only needed something that could float.