Quote (david @ Mar. 13 2014,13:02)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 10 2014,14:48)Is slavery wrong? No.Is forced slavery wrong? Yes.We should be slaves of Christ. But we choose to serve him. He doesn't force us to serve him.That is my view now without delving deep into scripture regarding it.NickIs forced slavery wrong?   T8 says yes.  T8 says forced slavery is w…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 13 2014,21:46)Regarding the whole killing thing we read about in scripture, I would like to add that there is a whole subject that is hardly ever preached that relates to some or much of these puzzeling Bible verses. It is that of the Nephilim. It is a bigger subject than most realise and the JWs may not teach anything on this, or…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 13 2014,21:08)@ David. I didn't say you did say this or that. I am making general statements on the subject.“However, not all slavery is bad as you say.”–t8I have actually repeatedly implied the opposite.

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 13 2014,13:54)David I would argue that slavery is the default. We are slaves to something. God, sin, the Devil, money, whatever.However, not all slavery is bad as you say. I agree that torture is not good, but death is not necessarily bad.If there exists a civilisation or culture that puts babies onto a burning hot idol as a…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 12 2014,17:03)Hi David, You seem to be upset with scripture on this.I feel possibly many don't even know the scriptures on this. T8 for example believes forced slavery is wrong. Maybe he just means wrong today. Maybe he means it was right back then but wrong today.

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 10 2014,14:48)Is slavery wrong? No.Is forced slavery wrong? Yes.We should be slaves of Christ. But we choose to serve him. He doesn't force us to serve him.That is my view now without delving deep into scripture regarding it.NickIs forced slavery wrong? T8 says yes. T8 says forced slavery is wrong. This is based on FEELINGS…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Mar. 10 2014,06:13)I have been away for a while. I went to another country where slavery still exists.  I bought some people and they are now my possessions or property.  My money.  I am careful not to injure their teeth or eyes but I do beat them with a stick as a form of discipline from time to time.  It seems these servants or…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 13 2014,12:06)Hi David, So where did this moral discussion lead?What is written is of far more value than man's mores.I think it will eventually lead to this. People that are bad at thinking should be beaten by me.PROVERBS 26:3″A whip for the horse, a halter for the donkey, and a rod for the backs of…[Read more]

Quote It was not considered immoral back then, but normal for themGod doesn't change.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 13 2014,11:45)Hi David, So nothing of value to offer? Was this just a game to vent your frustrations?Nick, I used to indulge you for weeks and months before I flipped the switch and acted as you do. Today, I flip the switch much faster. Consider it flipped.

Quote As for the virgins, they could of been raped by many men, and killed, but the laws were there to protect them, not harm them. If they married them, then they were no longer slaves. I'm sure many women back then would of wanted this.Journey, to be fair, the laws were there to protect their eyes from being blinded or their teeth from being…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 13 2014,04:40)EX 12:49 “ The same law shall apply to the native as to the stranger who sojourns among you.” LEV 19:10 ‘Nor shall you glean your vineyard, nor shall you gather the fallen fruit of your vineyard; you shall leave them for the needy and for the stranger. I am the LORD your God.Leviticus 24:22Numbers 15:16…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 12 2014,21:20)Hi David, Does it annoy you that God never even spoke against slavery in His Word?The religion of men certainly does-that is humanism. The things that get in the road of faith are wealth and pride, comfort and sufficiency etc But lack and and loss and suffering are doors to the real issue for God of…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 12 2014,19:58)Hi David, If you were God would you do things differently?Nick, That's a weird thing to tell the girl. I don't see it encouraging her or making her feel better.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 12 2014,17:03)Hi David, You seem to be upset with scripture on this.Given the situation I presented, would you be upset if that actually happened? I just try to put myself in other people's minds and actually understand what it must have been like. Most do not imagine what it must have been like. They see words or even…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 12 2014,17:03)Hi David, You seem to be upset with scripture on this.And true to form nick, you still don't answer questions.

Quote (david @ Mar. 12 2014,15:12)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 12 2014,15:06)Hi, Slavesget free food and lodging and do not have to pay rates of gas bills or rates.So do dogs.Nick, imagine canada, decides we like New Zealand. We are going to conquer it. So, we do a surprise attack. No one would ever spect it so it works. We kill all the males. We…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 12 2014,15:06)Hi, Slavesget free food and lodging and do not have to pay rates of gas bills or rates.So do dogs.

Quote (princess @ Mar. 12 2014,11:24)David, I know you put much weight in words of a book, but what does your spirit say? I wouldn't be too surprised to find out that the origin of slavery was by a person's own in some form or another. The person taking on the slave most likely would have had a kind heart and took on a slave due to it was the…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ Mar. 12 2014,12:18)Quote (david @ Mar. 12 2014,09:34)Quote (Colter @ Mar. 11 2014,22:08)Quote (david @ Mar. 11 2014,16:52)Colter, I'm not sure I understand your eggstion.  What are you asking. (I am really wanting not to take this question somewhere complicated.  I really am only concerned with the question of the board: “is s…[Read more]