Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 19 2014,03:50)Quote (david @ Mar. 18 2014,03:06)T8I very often try to put myself into other people's minds and see things as they would.So how would you explain to an average person, maybe to someone who doesn't believe in the bible or God, and who agrees as most do that slavery is morally wrong, a crime against…[Read more]

T8I very often try to put myself into other people's minds and see things as they would.So how would you explain to an average person, maybe to someone who doesn't believe in the bible or God, and who agrees as most do that slavery is morally wrong, a crime against humanity…explain to them about slavery. Don't confuse people being “slaves” to…[Read more]

T8, why do you think I'm rebelling. Perhaps I just want to bring slavery back, biblical style. Slavery even though illegal still exists in some places. If I have the money, why wouldn't I want slaves? There seem no reasons beyond the legality of it, Right.

Quote I have been waiting for you to ask this. I walked into your trap intentionally.It was not much of a trap. It's more of a difficult difficult question that thinking people ask. Does morality change? We are told god does not change. Can forced slavery be considered morally good in the past while being largely considered an abomination by…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 16 2014,11:52)Quote (david @ Mar. 16 2014,03:06)So, t8, to be clear, you believe that forced slavery (being taken against your will, and forced to be a slave) is morally wrong?Why would God allow and even command something such as this?I have been waiting for you to ask this. I walked into your trap intentionally.God says that we…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Mar. 10 2014,06:13)I have been away for a while. I went to another country where slavery still exists.  I bought some people and they are now my possessions or property.  My money.  I am careful not to injure their teeth or eyes but I do beat them with a stick as a form of discipline from time to time.  It seems these servants or…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 16 2014,14:15)If it doesn't help me or save my life, then I would rather pass on that one.T8. Why do you keep saying to hit or beat you if it saves your lifeDo you believe that this is what slavery (of the forced nature) was about–saving lives?

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 16 2014,11:25)Quote (david @ Mar. 15 2014,18:43)My way is good if it works?  You seem to wan to depersonalize it.  I am asking about me beating YOU with a stick.If it saves my life, then I choose the stick. If it is of no benefit, then I choose not the stick.T8And do you think the beating of slaves in ancient Israel was saving t…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 16 2014,09:32)voluntary submission ,is not slavery ,Christ ;ask us to voluntary submit to his father and it will make us free of what slavery of men ,ignorance,abuses,becoming a slave by voluntary submission to God  and receive righteousness ,peace,happiness, and life everlasting is not slavery to me .Exactly what I'm…[Read more]

Asking if logic is truth is sort of like asking if math is truth. If there is any reasoning that isn't true, then it isn't logic. Maybe a better question would be: are there any instances where any of the logical fallacies are not fallacies?

Quote (Colter @ Mar. 15 2014,22:28)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 15 2014,20:56)Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 15 2014,09:26)hiwhat is bad slavery what is good slavery or is their no good or bad slavery An example of good slavery is when we are slaves of Christ.A bad example would be being a slave to some immoral and cruel person.You can't polish a turd, the term…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 15 2014,22:23)Quote This is when there were disputes or controversies and judgments had to be made by the older men. What does this have to do with slavery.You gave this scripture David, to back up your point.Quote BEATINGS. SCRIPTURES NOT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT SLAVERY BUT ONES THAT PEOPLE WHO OWNED SLAVES MAY HAVE…[Read more]

WOMEN DIDNT HAVE A CHOICE, WHETHER THEY WANTED TO HAVE SEX(Being property or a possession, the female slaves were required to have sex and become pregnant if the owner wanted this.  They had no say.)GEN 16:1-2″Now A′bram’s wife Sar′ai had borne him no children, but she had an Egyptian servant whose name was Ha′gar.  So Sar′ai said to A′bram: “Pl…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 15 2014,20:58)Quote (david @ Mar. 15 2014,18:45)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 14 2014,21:47)David, slavery was a curse that not only came upon non_Jews, but perhaps more so to Jews. When the Jews were in slavery it was never a good thing, it was a judgement. My guess is it was no different for others. What you sow is what you reap. Sometimes…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 15 2014,20:56)Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 15 2014,09:26)hiwhat is bad slavery what is good slavery or is their no good or bad slavery An example of good slavery is when we are slaves of Christ.A bad example would be being a slave to some immoral and cruel person.It was specified that you couldn't be cruel to your HEBREW slaves,…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 14 2014,21:47)David, slavery was a curse that not only came upon non_Jews, but perhaps more so to Jews. When the Jews were in slavery it was never a good thing, it was a judgement. My guess is it was no different for others. What you sow is what you reap. Sometimes it takes years to reap that which has been sown.Thus I don't think…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 14 2014,21:33)Quote (david @ Mar. 14 2014,10:24)If I beat you as some weird method to get you to move out of the way of a moving vehicle then you would be happy.  (I would probably just yell: “hey, look out,” or push you.). What if rather than me beating you to save your life I was bearing you for these types of reasons:PROVERBS…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 14 2014,11:30)Deut 25:1   If there be a controversy between men, and they come unto judgment, that the judges may judge them, then they shall justify the righteous, and condemn the wicked.Deut 25:2   And it shall be, if the WICKED man be worthy to be beaten, that the judge shall cause him to lie down, and to be beaten b…[Read more]

For some reason these videos never show up for me. Can you tell me the title of the video?

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 13 2014,22:04)Quote (david @ Mar. 13 2014,15:45)Ya. Torture isn't good.  If I beat you with a stick is that torture?As for misunderstanding, that is why I ask and discuss.  What am I misunderstanding.I haven't studied scripture regarding these questions you ask as much as other subjects. But I will converse anyway in the hope t…[Read more]