Quote Hi david,One scripture that is translated as messenger seems a weak basis for any sort of doctrine but then the JWs only loosely use scripture anyway prefering weak logic and inference.Nick, you are master of creating false beliefs and then arguing against them. This obviously is not the basis. Nice misdirection though. As you know, there…[Read more]

Quote My question is, does it really matter if we know?Tell me about it.  It seems to matter immensely to people like Nick.  I think the reason is, he want's JW's to be wrong and this seems to be something that isn't based on definite extraordinarily clear scriptures.  To JW's, this isn't something that is in any way a primary teaching or main be…[Read more]

“Satan has managed to mislead the entire inhabited earth, and he holds them all in his grip of power through the many varied Religions that are found on the earth today. But, satan would have known that some from among mankind would not accept the Worlds Religions, so he would need one that so closely resembled the true Religion that it could…[Read more]

This appears to be a duplication of what you already posted here:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….t=2311;I responded to you there.And there, I said:“It was hard to take but there could only be one answer. . . . for there isn't another Religion on this Planet that teaches the Bible as they do . . . It looks, I know, like the only true Religion.…[Read more]

Yes, back to the unanswered posts.Quote I though we could start with T8's point above. Is T8 wrong?So, we have a better idea what he is saying, let's look at the full context:“We know that Jesus is not and angel because we are told just that in Hebrews.”–Kerwin.T8 responds:”Actually that is an assumption on your part.First off, it says to whi…[Read more]

Quote Don't you even read your own publications?I'm the one with all the quotes, remember? Since you didn't respond to any of the quotes, I'm not sure you read my post.I'll give you the shortened version:Yes, 20 years ago you can find statements like this:Quote There will be a great cry of “peace and security,” but this is to be followed by the…[Read more]

Quote So for thirty years you taught as a Watchtower witness which you now condemn as “The false Church”, and now you think that you have unambiguous truth that Jesus is Michael?Thats laughable!I agree. And it's because of such comments that I believe he will soon be distancing himself from JW's just to be taken seriously. He will abandon things…[Read more]

Quote Hi david,The bible never says Jesus is an angel,Nick, are you sure. Your friend, T8 thinks it does. You have yet to respond to his post that I pasted 3 times in that other thread.

Quote If you are to state he is Jesus you diminish the Son of God.Is it diminishing to call the son of God a malwahk?Then I guess the Bible diminishes the son of God, in Nick's opinion.Who is wrong–the Bible or Nick?

“It was hard to take but there could only be one answer. . . . for there isn't another Religion on this Planet that teaches the Bible as they do . . . It looks, I know, like the only true Religion. . . .”–texasActually, texas, to the vast majority of people, it looks nothing like what they want the true religion to look like.They don't want the…[Read more]

Quote Okay! Who was this Michael the chief Prince. Can you show conclusively that it wasn't Jesus in angelic form?While I agree completely, that Michael is another name for Jesus, you are asking Nick to prove that santa doesn't exist. It's up to you to prove he does.Nick doesn't believe Jesus could ever be called an angel. That is his stumbling…[Read more]

https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=17;t=941;st=470that is a link to the largest thread of this kind.

Quote So what is it that you disagree with, Texas?–davidQuote Hi David!Simply that I don't believe that there will be a “universal cry of peace and security” that will introduce Jehovah's Day. –texasI don't think anyone believes there will be a “universal” cry of peace and security.  As the quotes I showed reveal, we do not know, nor claim to…[Read more]

Quote When they “SAY” peace and security,as only one universal cry was intended; it says, while they're “SAYING” IT! A news flash for you David, they've been SAYING IT since the year 1913, As you should know Texas, JW's don't know whether this “saying” of peace and security began years and years ago, or it will be a more specific event. (You're…[Read more]

There are already 5 threads on Jesus being Michael the archangel. This is the first one, as far as I can tell where someone started a thread on this who actually believed Jesus was Michael.

Quote (david @ April 13 2009,18:25)Quote Oh! But the preaching activity is Organized, as you say, but it is organized by the Christ now invisibly present in Kingdom power. Who could organize it better than he?–texas.I agree.Quote As for the baptizing that you mentioned; you forgot to mention it was done by Holy Spirit, not by water! Big…[Read more]

Quote Do you believe that Jesus would pour out the Holy Spirit on the empire of false Religion? If you believe that, you'd best give yourself a serious shake, and come to you senses! Texas, I've noticed you sometimes create false arguments that I don't believe in order to make me look silly. Nick does this all the time as well. Quote So, you…[Read more]

Hi T8, it's me again.Quote david you could also add your name too if you want to be fair.You are in contradiction to many of us, are you not? And what of your unity with JWs? Is there not unity among Roman Catholics. What about the Nazis, or the socialist movement in Colombia?Yes, my only arguement T8, is that logically, if the spirit is not…[Read more]

T8, on your comments:Quote Exactly the point david.Jesus is the head of the Church. Not the Watchtower, a president, CEO, or pastor.I agree and never stated otherwise.  Quote See that david? Every denomination is built by man.The earliest group of Christians was not built by man.  Well, it was built by Jesus.  Quote Your example of Jesus or…[Read more]

Quote The issue was over this supposed coming cry of 'peace and security'. I put a Post on the Board dealing with that cry of peace and security. If you read it, you will know why I disagreed with them.Texas, Which thread is it in?