david replied to the topic Bloody history in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 1 month ago
Quote Most of Europe was Catholic during much of these times. If ANYTHING happened it was by so-called “Catholics”. That doesn't mean that the Catholic church is responsible for the atrocities.“Silence gives consent”–Pope Boniface VIII (Italian Pope. 1235-1303)
david replied to the topic Bloody history in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 1 month ago
If there are millions of Catholics who think they're Catholics, but they're not true Catholics,….how do I know you're not one of them? How do I know you are a true Catholic?Is there not an official doctrine/belief on killing other people?I know how the earliest Christians acted. I know what the Bible says. What does the Catholic church…
david replied to the topic Bloody history in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 1 month ago
What of the Catholics who were cardinals, bishops, who bless troops? Every war that has been fought has had these.
david replied to the topic Bloody history in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 1 month ago
Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 02 2009,06:06)Quote (david @ Sep. 02 2009,02:35)Quote It was people who in many cases claimed to be Catholics.So the millions who killed other millions weren't catholic? Only claiming to be? Is that what you're saying?You pick things up quick.Murder is wrong. Our faith tells us that the end doesn't justify the me…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Purgatory in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 1 month ago
Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 01 2009,19:56)Quote (david @ Sep. 01 2009,18:52)“My view is that if Purgatory did not exist, we should have to invent it.”–Ratzinger, Same book as above.http://books.google.ca/books?i….f=falseIF…did you follow his logic in that phrase?O yeah, you learn well from your superiors. Did they teach you to pull…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Purgatory in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 1 month ago
Quote Catholics of the first to the present century have believed and acted in uniformity. I would like to explore this in intense detail. It is not true and it is not true on so very many counts.
david replied to the topic Bloody history in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 1 month ago
Quote It was people who in many cases claimed to be Catholics.So the millions who killed other millions weren't catholic? Only claiming to be? Is that what you're saying?
david replied to the topic The catholic church: answering common objections in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 1 month ago
Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 01 2009,20:13)Quote (david @ Sep. 01 2009,17:30)Quote You have a false premise. You can't prove from Scripture alone that dunking is the “only” licit means of performing a valid baptism. –CA.That is, afterall, what the word actually means.–The Greek ba′pti·sma refers to the process of immersion, including su…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The catholic church: answering common objections in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 1 month ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 01 2009,18:22)Quote (david @ Sep. 01 2009,02:05)Quote and his writings are Trinitarian.Click here…I “clicked here.”He apparently wrote 7 authentic letters, letters actually written by him.But, the article said: By the 5th century, this authentic collection had been enlarged by spurious letters, and some of the…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The catholic church: answering common objections in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Christian Biker @ Sep. 01 2009,13:15)Baptizing a baby is “meaningless”! Also; I was not aware that John was a Catholic when he baptize Jesus but if the Catholic church “started the whole “dunking” in the first place” than he must have been.John was not a “Catholic” when he baptized Jesus. It would not be for a hundred years until the wor…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Infant baptism in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 1 month ago
Quote Origen, for instance, wrote in the third century that “according to the usage of the Church, baptism is given even to infants” (Holilies on Leviticus, 8:3:11 ). Yes, by the third century, they had fallen away from Christian teachings. Agreed.Matt. 28:19: “Go therefore and make disciples . . . baptizing them.” (“disciple” means “taught one.”)
david replied to the topic Jesus has returned in the forum Prophecy 17 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Cindy @ April 03 2009,20:39)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 03 2009,20:35)Hi Georg, So he has not returned yet. I agree.We hope to meet him in the air.I told you once, deliberate twisting what I say, makes you a liar, and deceiver.GeorgNick is famous for that. He creates false arguments and then argues against them. And when he's not doing…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Purgatory in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 1 month ago
Are these quotes by the Catholic Encyclopedia and by Ratzinger “official church position”?What do you say?
david replied to the topic Purgatory in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 1 month ago
“My view is that if Purgatory did not exist, we should have to invent it.”–Ratzinger, Same book as above.http://books.google.ca/books?i….f=false
david replied to the topic Purgatory in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 1 month ago
Ratzinger (when he was a Cardinal) stated: “Limbo was never a defined truth of faith. Personally—and here I am speaking more as a theologian and not as Prefect of the Congregation—I would abandon it since it was only a theological hypothesis. It formed part of a secondary thesis in support of a truth which is absolutely of first significance for…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Purgatory in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 1 month ago
Would you agree with this defintion:“According to the teaching of the Church, the state, place, or condition in the next world . . . where the souls of those who die in the state of grace, but not yet free from all imperfection, make expiation for unforgiven venial sins or for the temporal punishment due to venial and mortal sins that have alr…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Purgatory in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 1 month ago
Wait a second. You mentioned the U.S. Catholic quote, but what of this:After reviewing what Catholic writers have said regarding such texts as 2 Maccabees 12:39-45, Matthew 12:32, and 1 Corinthians 3:10-15, the New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967, Vol. XI, p. 1034) acknowledges: “In the final analysis, the Catholic doctrine on purgatory is based on…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Purgatory in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 1 month ago
Quote Purgatory is NOT a “middle ground between heaven and hell”. It is referred to in Scripture at the judgment seat (bema) of Christ. (2 Cor. 5:8-10)Why not call it judgement seat?
david replied to the topic Purgatory in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 1 month ago
Quote Yet again you prove your astounding ignorance. The “U.S. Catholic” is not official church position.After your forgetting about Augustine's Retractions, I wouldn't be too hasty in using that word “ignorance.”Quote You all still haven't been able to support your hair-brain idea called “Sola Scriptura.”I'm not sure what you mean by Sola…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Bloody history in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 1 month ago
Quote So is Jesus Christ responsible for the death of millions? According to your logic, he must be since these people claimed to be His followers. But again, that is ridiculous…just like your logic.I find your blindness amusing.Catholics claim to follow Jesus, therefore Jesus is responsible for the death of millions?First of all, someone is…[Read more]
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