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    “(WJ thinks that the word “god” must involve worship.)”–DAVIDYour response:“This is a lie David  . . .As far as the word “God”, yes I believe it must involve worship as we have shown you that both the Father and Jesus was worshipped in the scriptures.”How can you not see how I could be confused?I was asking you about the word “god.”  Should i h…[Read more]

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    Quote Ok, then it was a misunderstanding. But I do not see where you could have gotten the Idea that anything I had said even comes close to that!You said those EXACT words.Do I have to quote them again?

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 05 2009,18:18)Quote (david @ Sep. 05 2009,02:15)Quote ut you seem to think that Moses was equal to Jesus by your statements!See, now THAT is a lie.  Nowhere anywhere do I even HINT at that in the slightest.  But, when I quote you saying exactly what you said, you accuse me of lying.  what gives?DavidDo you see the wo…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 05 2009,18:02)Quote (david @ Sep. 05 2009,01:53)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 04 2009,02:48)DavidQuote (david @ Sep. 02 2009,23:21)(WJ thinks that the word “god” must involve worship.)This is a lie David and is proof that what Jack said about your dark heart may be true!Where have I ever said this David? There are…[Read more]

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    Quote ut you seem to think that Moses was equal to Jesus by your statements!See, now THAT is a lie. Nowhere anywhere do I even HINT at that in the slightest. But, when I quote you saying exactly what you said, you accuse me of lying. what gives?

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 05 2009,18:04)Quote (david @ Sep. 05 2009,01:59)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 04 2009,02:48)DavidQuote (david @ Sep. 02 2009,23:21)(WJ thinks that the word “god” must involve worship.)This is a lie David and is proof that what Jack said about your dark heart may be true!Where have I ever said this David? There are…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 05 2009,17:54)Quote (david @ Sep. 05 2009,01:47)Quote There are plenty false gods that are not worshipped which are “not gods at all” but merely made by men!If they are not worshipped, WJ, in what sense are they a “god” (or falsely believed to be a god)?What do you think?I think, they are called gods, because they…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 04 2009,02:48)DavidQuote (david @ Sep. 02 2009,23:21)(WJ thinks that the word “god” must involve worship.)This is a lie David and is proof that what Jack said about your dark heart may be true!Where have I ever said this David? There are plenty false gods that are not worshipped which are “not gods at all” but merely…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 04 2009,02:48)DavidQuote (david @ Sep. 02 2009,23:21)(WJ thinks that the word “god” must involve worship.)This is a lie David and is proof that what Jack said about your dark heart may be true!Where have I ever said this David? There are plenty false gods that are not worshipped which are “not gods at all” but merely…[Read more]

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    Quote Hi DavidI have answered you question already, so go back and look.You have just put plugs in your ears!No, you DEFINITELY DID NOT!and please don't say you did. If so, where? Maybe we're thinking of different questions. I underlined it for you:Quote MY QUESTION TO YOU, AGAIN, which you are trying your very hardest to avoid, (and…[Read more]

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    Quote So while Jesus was like Moses–WJWhat? Did you hear that “The Thinker”?Hey, didn't The Thinker end his post by saying:Quote That David would even compare Jesus to Moses reflects the darkness that is in his heart.And didn't someone named WJ respond by saying:”How true.”Hey, that was you.hmmm.

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    Quote There are plenty false gods that are not worshipped which are “not gods at all” but merely made by men!If they are not worshipped, WJ, in what sense are they a “god” (or falsely believed to be a god)?What do you think?I think, they are called gods, because they are thought to have power, thought to be mighty.I have thought that you always…[Read more]

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    Quote This is a lie David and is proof that what Jack said about your dark heart may be true!I'm sorry WJ. I thought you believed this.So, since you don't believe this, you are now suggesting that just because someone is called “god” does not mean there has to be worship invovled?We are making progress!

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    Quote –We know Moses wasn't a false god, right? (For it was Jehovah that “made” him a God to Pharoah.)–And here, you suggest “maybe” Jehovah made him a god to Pharoah meaning, “worshiped” by Pharoah.I think we're beginning to build enough evidence that Moses is part of the trinity.Seriously, that's about all the evidence we would need, isn't…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 04 2009,02:40)Quote (david @ Sep. 02 2009,22:46)Quote Hi DavidThe answer to your question is in my statement!”May or may not have worshipped”How hard is that to understand?The scriptures do not tell us do they. They simply tell us that YHWH said he would make Moses “A god to Pharaoh”, not to the Hebrews or anyone…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 04 2009,02:27)Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 02 2009,21:12)Quote (david @ Sep. 03 2009,12:27)Quote I am sugesting that Pharaoh acknowledged that Moses was some sort of “a god” who he may or may not have worshipped.–WJDid Pharoah worship Moses?Is that why he was called a god to Pharoah?Simple questions.TO WJ:Don't allow…[Read more]

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    Quote NHNo, I am saying that you talk double talk!You say men can be gods like Moses and yet you cannot call Jesus God!You speak with a forked tongue! IMOWJI think part of that lies in what other people believe. Example: So many people think that “hell” means “hellfire” whereas “hades/sheol” (hell) is just the grave. So, although we could use…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic Bloody history in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years ago

    Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 05 2009,07:12)Quote HMMM!I find this one…”To worship Christ in any form cannot be wrong … ” (WT, 3-1880, 83).And this one…”There could be nothing against our consciences in going into the army” (WT, 4-15-1903, 120).Interesting, since David has been so adament against them!WJ  :cool:Yes it IS interesting.You may all…[Read more]

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    Quote What did you expect me to say to you?–caIf the questions were wrong or part of a straw man, I wanted you to explain why the questions were wrong.  That's what I would have done.  Listen, we apparently don't know exactly what you think about this, because you have recently mentioned something about Peter being another Messiah.  So, if we st…[Read more]

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    Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 04 2009,07:10)Quote (david @ Sep. 02 2009,17:13)While I've touched on this before, I want to actually discuss it, so I am greatly narrowing the subject matter, to Matthew 16:18.The question is a simple one, but I would like to look at the actual scripture itself at the middle of this question (Matthew 16:18).The…[Read more]

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