Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 17 2009,22:47)Constitutionalist said:Quote You can have two Saviors, so to speak.Then you can have two Gods “so to speak.” I am glad that David started this thread. It helps to expose anti-trinitarian double talk.thinkerWhy don't you go attempt to discuss your multiple “saviors” theories in the “Title Confusion Trick”…[Read more]

Quote David,. . . .And show how Jesus could be the “Savior” without being God. And explain how you can have two Saviors.This is the chief problem with anti-trinitarianism. It is not consistent. If Jesus is excluded as “God” in this verse then God is excluded as “Savior.” Yet anti-trinitarians say that God alone is Savior right?You're too much…[Read more]

Quote David,Your reasoning is circular. Show how the KJV treats “God” and “Savior” seperately. And show how Jesus could be the “Savior” without being God. And explain how you can have two Saviors.—the …um …”thinker.”PLEASE!!!!This argument actually makes me vomit in my mouth a little. It's so simplistic. I created another thread “Title…[Read more]

Quote Sometimes I can't be bothered pointing out that “of the    great     God     and      savior     of us     Christ        Jesus” can be talking of two.Seems funny that all the proof verses can be rendered useless if you move the comma.“Woman without man is nothing.”Depending on where you put the punctuation, this sentence can mean opposite th…[Read more]

Quote This is just one example of David's anti-Christian bag of tricks. I will get to the rest of his post soon. He really has my blood boiling profusely now.–The….um hum…”Thinker.”Quote I don't know TT, 1 Tim. 6:13 seems to be explained pretty well in his post. And it does make sense. I don't know why your blood is boiling, is it because it…[Read more]

I am going to create a thread called “Sharp's Rule.”

Quote What you guys fail to see is that most Greek and Hebrew scholars are Trinitarians because they know how to translate the scriptures and see the truth in the text.Is that how it works WJ?Or, rather, wouldn't most translators be indoctrinated with trinitarianism from a very early age, so they see it in the text? They grow up a Catholic,…[Read more]

Quote David also gave a list of translations of Titus 2:13 which really do not contradict the Granville Sharp rule. He is expecting that you will read Titus 2:13 the way he does. David is pretty slick isn't he?So, these translations do not contradict the Sharp rule:1934 “of the great God and of our The Riverside New Savior Christ J…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 17 2009,03:12)Quote (david @ Dec. 16 2009,15:08)Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 16 2009,06:27)Quote (david @ Dec. 15 2009,18:13)Quote COYet God says that you and your spouse is One.And what does that mean, WJ?Does it not mean that we are “one” in purpose?Moses said “one FLESH” not one purpose. thinkerOk,…Thinker, and what does…[Read more]

Can we please stick to the actual subject, of which no one here really wants to discuss?

Quote The very fact that the scriptures say “There is no God but one” falls down in favour of the Trinitarian view of John 1:1c because John was not a polytheist for he did not have to use the word theos in the verse did he?Except, we know that many are called “gods” in the Bible, and I'm not talking about the false gods that were worshiped by…[Read more]

Quote The Coptic is all you have David, and the lonely NWT.All I have for what?  Are you suggesting that the Coptic (the earliest Bible translation into a language that even had the possibility of translating it with “a,” and did so) and the NWT are the only translations that don't translate this “God”?Because you know that's a lie.  There's l…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 16 2009,11:17)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 16 2009,11:08)Hi TT, The watching angels of Gen6.They left their estate and took women for wives.Where does it say that angels took women for wives? It says that the sons of God (the line of Seth) took the daughters of men (Cain).The sons of God (Seth's line) were intermarrying with…[Read more]

Quote none of the speakers in Job spoke what is untrue in itself, just incomplete.–NickEliphaz:”Look! In his servants he has no faith,And his messengers he charges with faultiness.How much more so with those dwelling in houses of clay, Whose foundation is in the dust!One crushes them more quickly than a moth.”So, Nick, you are worthless and…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ May 30 2009,04:53)Heaven Net friends,Titus 2:13 is a direct assertion that Jesus Christ is God,Quote Looking for that blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus ChristNote this grammatical rule right from the textbook,Quote If two substantives are connected by kai and both have the article, they refer…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 16 2009,06:27)Quote (david @ Dec. 15 2009,18:13)Quote COYet God says that you and your spouse is One.And what does that mean, WJ?Does it not mean that we are “one” in purpose?Moses said “one FLESH” not one purpose. thinkerOk,…Thinker, and what does “one flesh” mean?…that they meld together into one literal flesh? Or…[Read more]

Quote David in all of the scriptures that call Jesus God, is there once anywhere it is translated “a god”?Case closed! NWT Corrupt. Coptic Corrupt!–WJI just really find this amusing. WJ, you gave a “case closed” because apparently, there is not “once anywhere” in the GREEK scriptures where Jesus being called “god” is translated “a god.”For those…[Read more]

Quote For One as a number is both thehighest and the lowest, the largestand the smallest there is either 1whole or 1 part of 1 whole andany numerical expression is a partof the one being expressed. 1 willnot be divided so those whoexpress themselves outside ofone expression are expressingdelusion.How would “1/2” fit into this?

You guys know there really is no “edge” to the universe, don't you?

Quote COYet God says that you and your spouse is One.And what does that mean, WJ?Does it not mean that we are “one” in purpose?