Quote David says that this argument makes him want to vomit. I cannot imagine anyone who claims to be a christian wanting to vomit because of the statement that the Savior is Divine.Thinker, first, Sharp's made up rule is all you have. That's it. So I undertand why you get so emotional when someone attacks your precious rule. Secondly, I was…[Read more]

https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=1;t=2912;hl=titleThat is a link to the new thread I started on this subject.

Quote The JW's say that the Word was “a god.” At the same time they confess there is only one “true” God (the Father). So David and the JW's are forced to the conclusion that Jesus is a false god.THINKER, you apparently did not read the original post.  Or at least, you're not willing to discuss what it says.  Because it was very clearly shown t…[Read more]

Thinker, I was wondering if you could attempt to address these points or answer any of these questions?While you mention this topic all the time, you seem to not want to actually discuss it.david

The more I study this rule, the more it seems a “fit for purpose” rule, that being to defend the divinity of Christ.Sharp was a trinitarian and a grammarian, and he set out to help establish the divinity of Christ. He definitely developed that rule with the Trinity in the back of his mind. That's why he came up with so many exceptions to fit in…[Read more]

Wikipedia, under “Granville Sharp” says:Of Granville Sharp's most successful critic, Calvin Winstanley , Wallace says: “Winstanley conceded 'There are, you say, no exceptions, in the New Testament, to your rule; that is, I suppose, unless these particular texts be such … it is nothing surprising to find all these particular texts in…[Read more]

Quote I hear all the chitter chatter from those with no credentials in Greek Grammar denying the facts because to them it cannot be so for if it was then they may have to forsake their false doctrines!No, we're more so pointing out that other people with Greek credentials (and who are even trinitarian) often question Sharps Rule.

So, Nick, you think Job was guilty of these things?

I've created a new thread on the subject of both God and Jesus being called Savior. If you wish to discuss that, go to that thread. If you wish to discuss other things, continue here.

I suppose I shall have to create a second “savior” thread, as this one has fallen apart. Oh well.

Here is what page 122 of that book actually has on it:Box/Pictures on page 122, 123]SHUN WHAT JEHOVAH HATESManslaughter.—Exodus 20:13; 21:22, 23.Sexual immorality.—Leviticus 20:10, 13, 15, 16; Romans 1:24, 26, 27, 32; 1 Corinthians 6:9, 10.Spiritism.—Deuteronomy 18:9-13; 1 Corinthians 10:21, 22; Galatians 5:20, 21.Idol…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 18 2009,12:17)Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 17 2009,18:40)Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 16 2009,19:43)Hi Everybody,Now that David is back, I think this might be a lively discussion.The 14 Commandments of the JEHOVAH Witnesses Organization; are there really 14?These are based entirely on the teachings found on Page 122 of ‘What does the b…[Read more]

Hi Ed.I have no idea where you got this from.It was definitely not from page 122 of that book.  I have that book.  There is no list of commandments or anything like that.  There is a box that is called: “Shun what Jehovah hates.”The first few things in that box, for example say this exactly:“Manslaughter.–Exodus 20:13; 21:22,23Sexual im…[Read more]

Quote if both yourself and one who believes in the trinity both hold jesus and god the same why such as Jehovah is the only true god and jesus is our savior–peaceBut that's the thing. We don't hold Jesus and Jehovah the same. You said “Jehovah is the only true god and jesus is our savior.”But WJ for instance, believes that Jesus, Jehovah and…[Read more]

however i had read and seen historical facts that state that indeed it was a roman worship on the 25th to the sun god, for they were in hard dark times and used it to celebrate and time for celebration to shed light upon such drearty times. the christian chruch or christianity congregation at that time already was holding a time for jesus's death…[Read more]

Quote growing up we never celebrated christmas. i wast told that it originated for pagan worship and that was that.however i had read and seen historical facts that state that indeed it was a roman worship on the 25th to the sun god, for they were in hard dark times and used it to celebrate and time for celebration to shed light upon such drearty…[Read more]

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Hey guys. what do you say we make a concerted effort to stay on topic. (I'll just abandon this thread and start a duplicate anyway.)

Quote however i had read and seen historical facts that state that indeed it was a roman worship on the 25th to the sun god, for they were in hard dark times and used it to celebrate and time for celebration to shed light upon such drearty times. the christian chruch or christianity congregation at that time already was holding a time for jesus's…[Read more]