Were the angels “The God” or “false gods”? Were the angels “The God” or “false gods”? Were the angels “The God” or “false gods”? Were the angels “The God” or “false gods”? Were the angels “The God” or “false gods”? Were the angels “The God” or “false gods”? Were the angels “The God” or “false gods”? Were the angels “The God” or “false gods”? Were…[Read more]

Quote Kerwin,Have you noticed the problem with the Majority text (KJV)? It says “the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ.” If God is your “only” Lord then how can Jesus Christ be your Lord too? And how can all those other people that are called “lord's” be “lords?”Come to think of it, how can certain people and nations be called “holy” since…[Read more]

Hi Ed. First, I don't think trinitarians use this verse too much, as you say, to prove that Jesus is God Almighty. The reason they don't use it, is because it in no way proves that.I guess your question, apparently, is stating that being called “Lord of Lords” somehow equates to being “God.”I think it is up to those that believe this to prove it…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 29 2010,03:13)TO ALL:Jodi Lee and her lone disciple Gene have been saying that when Jesus died He “ceased to exist.” In reply to this I want to give two self evident facts: 1. If Jesus “ceased to exist” at death, then the spirit or soul that appeared in the body of Jesus after its resurrection is not the same Jesus but an…[Read more]

Interesting. I've never actually technically debated anyone before.

Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 29 2010,03:56)Quote (david @ Jan. 28 2010,00:42)Kejonn, you did not address my point.You ask:All I am asking is for theists to show me why other gods are false or non-existent while there own god is the only true one.In a nutshell.Quote My comment:”One God had a book authored and made available to everyone in the world.  This…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 28 2010,18:27)Do chimpanzees not look mostly like hairy humans to you, perhaps without the flattened face and the tail?  The reconstruction above is of a species that is more human in character than common ancestor with chimpanzees.  It lived only one million years ago while the last common ancestor with chimps was 5 or more m…[Read more]

Quote Because in the case of religious mythology there is no ultimate arbiter, whereas in science there is a clear and central means of resolving differences: empirical evidence. If the evidence is ambiguous then you need more evidence!right, so you're saying those scientists that clearly had positions on either side shouldn't have had positions…[Read more]

I'm not sure “thinker” ever addressed any of the points I made. He went on some tangent about sharps rule (unrelated) and I think he was confused by the fact that I created 3 threads called “title confusion trick.” He discussed that for a while. Did he ever answer any of my questions? Odd. I don't think he did. I wonder why.

that's a good idea t8. I get so frustrated by the completely unrelated comments, that I just give up.As far as stipulating rules, people don't listen.

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 25 2010,19:44)Quote (david @ Jan. 25 2010,19:18)Regarding the face, I was watching a documentary on some Pharoah.  They had two different scientists using different methods, reconstruct the face.  I was quite interested to know how close they came to each other.  While the documentary made it seem like it was extremely close, to…[Read more]

Quote By contrast, science comes to consensus with evidence determining the answers. Strictly, in the absence of evidence science has no position,But SCIENTISTS have positions on things all the time that are not proved one way or the other. Still on the topic of dinosaurs, a recent documentary was explaining a heated debate over whether some…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 25 2010,21:51)Quote (david @ Jan. 24 2010,23:49)Quote All I am asking is for theists to show me why other gods are false or non-existent while there own god is the only true one.–kejonnThere seems to be one basic answer given:One God had a book authored and made available to everyone in the world.  This God says, “I exist”…[Read more]

I'm just bumping this up to remind myself to make a simplified version of this thread.

Quote they need to lose the holy than thou act, we are right you are wrong on every issue basically.I would like you to name an issue that the Catholics believe they are wrong on. Or an issue that believe in, yet they believe they are wrong on.When they believe they are wrong on something, they change it. They don't continue to believe…[Read more]

Regarding the face, I was watching a documentary on some Pharoah. They had two different scientists using different methods, reconstruct the face. I was quite interested to know how close they came to each other. While the documentary made it seem like it was extremely close, to me, they looked like two completely different people. Different…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 25 2010,18:58)Quote (david @ Jan. 25 2010,18:31)Ok, this took forever to find.  I had to go through a lot of internet garbage (people repeatedly claiming JW's believe that humans walked with dinosaurs) until I found this.  Since I can't actually find any reference to this belief but only people saying this is what they thought t…[Read more]

Quote Well if some JWs do claim this as a JW belief, then it needs to be treated as such.No, that doesn't make sense.In the same time period, some scientists believed…..If you like, I can pick on all the things that fringe scientists believed in the 60's. But that wouldn't “prove” anything, would it? It would only prove that “some” scientists…[Read more]

Quote “But I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man. 12 For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ” Galatians 1:11-122 things:1. Are we not told repeatedly in the Gospels that Jesus spoke what the father told him to say. Jesus…[Read more]

I also enjoyed that video. Becoming a better thinker has been a goal of mine for years. Thinking more rationally, more logically, taking everything else out. I know I certainly don't always do this. From time to time, I am troubled over how much certain things matter. What is more important? Truth, or happiness? And what if you could only…[Read more]