Quote Just a quick response since i happen to be awake at 4am. –SFQuote Hey David again… its 5am now..–SFWhen do you sleep?Quote You really made a puzzle around this that can make you easily accusable. How so?WJ, you have to get a new name. I told you “Worshiping Jesus” was a bad name. In the past page, Dennison referred to you 3 times as…[Read more]

Quote And that i know that God a purpose for every word and intent in the bible. So again, how can we limit ourselves with siding with 50 when God wrote 51.Get what im saying?I get you.But i see limitations there.But my question again, do you want to shift the focus and interpret what Jesus was sayin literaly and than draw conclusions or just…[Read more]

Quote the Blood witnessed as the shedding of blood as in what seals the deal, when we read hebrews we read that everything was sealed in blood, like in every law Moses sprinkles the blood of animals on the book and on the people. and than hebrews says how much more is the blood of the Son of God? and Water is comparable to eternal life, never…[Read more]

Quote This also reminds me of a study I did on the verbs surrounding the Holy Spirit which is proof the Spirit is a person. I will post it here since Davids argument is the Holy Spirit being mentioned in Matt 28:19 is not a person.So if the Spirit is not a person then why did the translators translate Jn 16:13 and others with the personal…[Read more]

Let's look at this in point form:POINT FORM:-The Bible doesn't say the holy spirit is God.–The Bible gives no indication that the holy spirit was worshiped.–The Jews and the Hebrew Scriptures give no hint even that the holy spirit is a person, much less that it is worshiped as God. (They viewed God’s spirit as something God possesses.)–The h…[Read more]

MATTHEW 12:28“But if it is by means of GOD'S SPIRIT that I expel the demons, the kingdom of God has really overtaken YOU.”LUKE 11:20“But if it is by means of GOD'S FINGER I expel the demons, the kingdom of God has really overtaken YOU.”The “spirit of God” is synonymous with the “hand” and “the finger” of God (Ezek. 3:14; Job 26:13; Ps. 8:3; Luk…[Read more]

The fact that the Bible does not explicitly mention, explain or teach a trinity is in itself strong proof that the trinity teaching is false. And this is also borne out by what the Bible teaches regarding the holy spirit.God’s Word will help us and guide us to a correct understanding of the holy spirit. The correct identification of the holy s…[Read more]

Quote This is only two verses spoken by Jesus and not to mention the Apostles describing the Holy Spirit with personal attributes using personal pronouns.Should we ignore them?Is the Holy Spirit a person? If not then what sort of creature is he?–WJYou really don't read anything I write, do you? Yes, you point out that the holy spirit is a guide,…[Read more]

Quote David and his heretical religion reduces the Holy Spirit to less than evil spirits which are living beings with wills.–WJONCE YOU REACH 100, I WILL GIVE YOU A PRIZE FOR YOUR FALSE ACCUSATIONS! You are getting close.WJ, you are a living being with a will. Do you think that I truly believe that God's holy spirit is “less” than you, or than…[Read more]

Quote Keith,I wonder what David would say about Jesus' use of the personal pronoun “ekeinos” in John 14:26? Jesus said of the Spirit that “HE (ekeinos) shall testify of Me.”Observations:1. Why the use of the personal pronoun when the word “Spirit” in neuter?2. How does a non person “testify” of someone?thinkerThinker, would you say “The Blood” and…[Read more]

Quote david,So scripture speaks falsely when it states Jesus, like John the Baptist and other human beings, was conceived in his mother's womb some two thousand plus years ago?Kerwin, I did not say that. There are so many trinitarians on here who would say that with God all things are possible. Why don't we just call it one of those paradoxes,…[Read more]

Is 1:18, where have you been?Your the only one that conveys their thoughts logically and tightly enough that I sometimes have trouble answering their trinitarian arguments.

Quote And it is also an error to say that Jesus's mandate doesnt prove anything about the Trinity. Its not a suggestion, its an order. –dennisonI do not know why people keep saying this. I agree that Jesus command to “Go” and make disciples is an order. Elsewhere in scritpure it actually says he “ordered” us to preach. But the order was to Go…[Read more]

sorry Rokka,I am still responding to things on page 4. If I jump around, people will accuse me of not answering their questions. I'm almost done, but it's 2:00 AM here, so I will come back to this tommorow. But I will just finish responding to Dennison.

. . . .my conclusion is.That your Right: That one verse does not prove that the early Apostles believed in the Trinity.–DennisonThat is all I set out for in this thread. WJ systematically says that this scripture is clear evidence of the trinity. Others believe it is among the best evidence of the trinity.I believe it proves we can count to three.

Quote Its called the Holy Ghost for a reason,Actually, it's not called the “holy Ghost.” Well, it was in the KJ or other old Bibles perhaps when that word “Ghost” had a slightly different meaning. No Bible today in modern English would translate it that way.”spirit” has many meanings and can or can not convey personality.”Ghost” always conveys…[Read more]

Quote To say that its only Gods finger… i mean a finger limits God.dennison, I did not say it's “only” God's finger. The Bible used that word to refer to God's holy spirit. I think you are comparing the strength of your finger to God's. That is silly.

Quote I agree that the statment that WJ made about ONE scripture would be impossible to tell if the Apostle believed in that or not. –dennison.where did he say this. Case closed.

Quote Frequency is not revelant–dennisonSounds like something that someone who only has one scripture would say.Quote No where does it say that God loves you. find a verse that says God loves you. in first person. As in God: “I love you”Scriptures such as 1 John 4:7-12 make it obvious that God loves his followers, and that “his love” is made…[Read more]

Quote and its not Gods finger, He is there for us always.. its like God always there for us in every moment, in every thought, and choice. If anything the Holy Spirit is a gentleman,Hi Dennison.While the holy spirit is unequivocally referred to as God's finger, it is never referred to as a gentleman, to the best of my knowledge. Of course it is…[Read more]