Quote Don't separate God from His radiance or you will be without the true light. –LUJesus is called both the “way” and the “light.”He is our way to God. He is the light that helps us to see and understand God. No one is suggesting we separate Jesus from God. We are simply suggesting that God is much above Jesus as the Sun is above the light…[Read more]

OK, I was watching this show, and apparently, astronomers can see 13 billion light years away. (That's as far as we can see right now.) And, it actually took a while to get that image.And since light took that long to reach us, what we actually see when we look that far, is galaxies in their infancy, not spiral, but sort of messed up. (The…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 28 2010,11:00)Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 27 2010,19:56)David,It's not you i am disputing against.Nor is there anything you said that i am arguing against.It is just that what you are oosting here is not relevant.I fully agree that 'we' are Sons of God.We are Sons of God if we have the Holy Spirit of God within us, as Adam did when…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Oct. 27 2010,17:23)POP Quiz:How many times is Jesus called the “Son of” God in Scripture?A.  0B.  20C.  >80How many times is Jesus called the “God of” God in scripture?A.  0B.  0C.  0D.  All of the aboveQuote We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.And in one Lo…[Read more]

Quote very God of very GodIt seems the first instance of “God” here, it is being used as a verb. Actually, maybe in both instances, it's being used as a verb.Can you explain what this means?

Quote was the rabbit in the hat before the magician brought it out. Yes. Even as he brought it out from under the table throught the trapdoor in the hat.There is a strong likelihood that the rabbit was in his jacket. (But the real question is, how did it get there? Bum bum, buuum!)

POP Quiz:How many times is Jesus called the “Son of” God in Scripture?A. 0B. 20C. >80How many times is Jesus called the “God of” God in scripture?A. 0B. 0C. 0D. All of the aboveQuote We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2010,16:43)Quote (david @ Oct. 26 2010,21:42)“….And to no one else shall I give my own glory.”–Is 48:11“I am Jehovah. That is my name; and to no one else shall I give my own glory,….”–Is 42:8If the Son is the radiance of that glory, He is a part of that glory  that the Father will not give away.  He would never giv…[Read more]

Quote Jehovah God in His fullness includes the Son and the Spirit. His fullness was not revealed in the OT as clearly as it was in the NT.No, it certainly wasn't. So, based on what you just said, do you think God's people were worshiping Jehovah, the Father, or do you think they were taught to worship Jehovah and his Son? (The answer is…[Read more]

Quote David,It seems like nit picking over semantics. If I said 'child of God' you understand that the child is from God, right? That would be easier to understand. If I say son of God…same thing, not confusing. Saying God of God can be confusing so I clarified it for you. I believe that like begat like and that was the case with God who…[Read more]

The fullness of a husband=The husband with his wife, not apart from his wife, but together with his wife.They are said to “become one flesh.” This means they become united in purpose, etc. But the husband, is still a husband, even if he's on the other side of the planet from his wife. So we could say that:Similarly, Jesus and his disciples are…[Read more]

Quote I am not introducing new things. The early church father's were saying the same thing maybe not in the same words. The scriptures that I put up were to show that the scriptures tie the light theme into Christ and the scriptures say that He is the radiance of God's glory. The sun's light rays are the radiance of the sun. –LuI think we…[Read more]

“….And to no one else shall I give my own glory.”–Is 48:11“I am Jehovah. That is my name; and to no one else shall I give my own glory,….”–Is 42:8

Quote Mike,You still don't get it…apart from the Son, God's glory is not radiating from Him. When, in the Hebrew Scriptures, it speaks of “Jehovah's glory” some 80 times, was this glory radiating through the Son, or was it coming from Jehovah?

Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 27 2010,06:54)David,I like what you say above.You are perfectly correct without equivocation.To All,Please all take note of David's post above.Hi JA.would it be weird if every time I make a post, I quote your words under my post?

Quote (david @ Oct. 26 2010,17:34)What are the actual facts?  What does the Bible tell us?1.  God's people worshiped God, as in Jehovah God, the God of the Bible.2.  Who worshiped Jesus or where are we told of anyone “worshiping” Jesus?3.  Jesus told us to worship “God.”4.  Are we told to worship God's son, Jesus? People who reject the above use…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2010,06:15)Quote (david @ Oct. 26 2010,01:46)Quote The Father and Son are both God but not two different Gods; the Son as God is just an extension of the ONE GOD and is inseparable to that ONE GOD.  Jesus, as the Son of God, is the God OF the ONE GOD.–LUI noticed in that last sentence you said “Jesus…is the God OF…[Read more]

Quote They also deny he died and was risen on third day. Of course, they smile, then tell you they believe but are in fact lying to you. They also claim that the KJV is the word of God and is free from error. –deeHi Dee.Are you referring to the “early Church fathers” that your post was about, or about Jehovah's Witnesses, who you also included in…[Read more]

https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=20;t=2103;hl=copticFor an insanely interesting look at how people living BACK THEN and who actually had an indefinite article in their language, check out that thread above.The very first translations where they had the word “a” in their langauge, they did include the “a” in the text.Of…[Read more]

Yet it is called ''Solomon's Temple''.It's not just that it's called Solomon's temple. It's that in scripture we are specifically told that Solomon built the temple. Yet, we know and understand what this means. It means he had it built. Well, Jehovah had things built. He used a master worker, his son.So, humans are called “God's son's” just…[Read more]