No. Most of the Christian world today believe as you do. Why do you think you are the minority when you are not?

Amilenialism or Historicism is truth imo, and they are not the majority. So, again you need to rename your thread. perhaps to.. “Armageddon according to a Minority”.

Why don’t you believe they are the same group?

I believe they are because one of the twelve tribes is removed and another put in its place. Judas was removed from among the Twelve and another was put in his place. I have other reasons but that is one.

 

Hi Kerwin.

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After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of t…

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Kerwin, apologies, I forgot to address your point.

There are two accounting of the same time period one right after the other. For example the 144,000 and the multitude before the throne appear as the same group.

I don’t believe this is the same group.

HERE ARE THE TRUE FOLLOWERS;NOT MANY I’M AFRAID.

Revelation 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the MOUNT SION, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father’s name written in their foreheads.

Revelation 14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I h…

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“Thine eyes (Ed J) shall see “the king”(=Jesus) in his beauty: ‘they’ shall behold the land that is very far off.” (Isaiah 33:17)

I agree with this. Do you mean in vision.

Hi Wakeup.

Do you believe that Christ is ruling now for 2000years?

Is Christ ruling in a true christian?

If so; then why all the divisions; should we all not be one, in the one spirit?

Don’t all share the same spirit if they are true?

And on top of that; why is there a falling away coming?

A falling away was prophesied to happen.

You are picturing…

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His mark will be placed IN the hand,or IN the forehead.

How is a microchip placed in the forehead.

WITHOUT THAT MARK; NO ONE CAN BUY OR SELL. CAN’T HAVE A JOB,BANK ACCOUNT,OR ANYTHING.
CHRISTIANS MUST MAKE A DECISION TO TAKE THE MARK, OR TO REJECT THE MARK.
SAVE YOUR LIFE FOR BREAD; OR DIE FOR CHRIST AND HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE.
HE WHO S…

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The wicked are destroyed at the end of the Messianic Age and before all things are made new.

Yes that is biblically correct.

The argument among Christians is when the so called messianic age is, or shall be. Thus, half of Christianity believes the messianic age is future, whereas the other half believe the messianic age is present since the…[Read more]

Thanks Wakeup, but I never mentioned a flood apart from in comparison to whom as taken away.

The one taken will be the one resurrected. The one left will be the one left on earth.

Jesus says in Matthew 13.24 onwards:

First, gather up the weeds, and bind them in bundles to burn them..

The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will gather out of his Kingdom all things that cause stumbling, and those who do iniquity, and will…[Read more]

camellia.

Yes it is true.
The temple has been build. History.
The messiah cut off. History.
The temple destroyed. History.
Only one thing is still going on to today; Desolation are determent until the consummation.

Two working in the field; one taken and the other left.
Two in bed, one taken and the other left.
Taken, as changed in a wink of an…

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Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate

 

Hi Wakeup.

This has been fulfilled. Are you saying this is  future?

TWO IN BED; ONE WILL BE TAKEN AND THE OTHER LEFT. TWO IN A FIELD,ONE TAKEN AND THE OTHER LEFT.

Wakeup, Who will be taken Where?

Gene, OK, thanks.

Hi Gene. Is there a reason you have not answered my latest posts?

Btw, excuse the name change, I had annoying technical issues.

Gene….. This thread has gone on a while (where is Adam, btw?)….. I know you are a good soul, you seem really impressed by this man (L.Ray.Smith), I have read some of his writings in the past, but have not followed…[Read more]

L. RAY SMITH PRODUCES TO PROVE THE POINT. What wrong with you people are you afraid you might be proven wrong, so you chose not to investigate the truth on this issue? Don’t let your pride stop you from seeking the truth on this, it is a very big issue for everyone to come to see clearly. IMO

Gene, my Son used up all our data downloading Star W…[Read more]

Kaia,
I am doing fine even though I am challenged by God. I hope you are as well.

Kerwin, yes I’m ok thanks. Good actually.

Acts 17:26-27New English Translation (NET Bible)

26 From one man he made every nation of the human race to inhabit the entire earth, determining their set times and the fixed limits of the places where they would live, 27 so that they would search for God and perhaps grope around for him and find him, though he is not far from each one of us.

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