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  • #190315
    budhabee
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    :D poisson my bro….well said. At least I am not a minority and boy I tell ya when u get pooped on for your sacred and thoughtful study of all phases of religion and cant even get a proper heartful response it is sad. I posted on another section and had not even started a thread really when thousand of freaking recitations of the bible were fed to me. As if I am going to read that download of dogma…as if really. I was looking for some enlightened minds like yours. I think I was just posting on the wrong page. I am with you on the Nag Hammadi all the way. Have been giving a read to Buddism also. I find the practical knowlege in it a great blessing for anyone who wants to climb that beautiful way of life as part of their education and read about meditation and other helpful attitudes. Ty for a heartfelt post and for not killing me with Dogma. (I so get a headache when they do that.)

    #192075
    budhabee
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    omg what a headache

    #189270
    budhabee
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 19 2006,19:22)
    Thank you,
    Very revealing.


    Why don't you get a copy of the Nag Hammadi. Found in 1945 (not sure about exact date) and not translated and let out to the public untill 1978.

    #188210
    budhabee
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    Quote (Elizabeth @ April 21 2010,17:24)

    Quote (budhabee @ April 20 2010,09:18)
    itsie bieti

    Quote (Elizabeth @ April 20 2010,03:50)

    Quote (budhabee @ April 19 2010,09:26)
    Hi Justaskin

    I like yer moniker.  Pretty cool.  I really dont know what to say to your last post.  I'm not sure if you think I am a Christian or not.  I am.  There is a reason for my thinking that I am one but none that covers what you put in your last post.  I think that Heaven is here.  Our Father is here, and Jesus is here, not only are they in us but they are also in our plants, our soil, our animals,  our mountains, our rivers, our seas, our fires, our smoke, our rain, our wind and every blade of grass, and every pebble. and every strand of our hair, our stars, our Universe.  I could go on and on but this list is too long.  I dissagree  with you about the animal part and the science part.  Men and Women should be able to ask questions and study our earth and discover different answers to different problems, and invent and learn and achieve.

    Ok Ok Ok…..yes….I flunked Math.  Are you happy now?     :cool:  heh heh.


    I think you need to rethink your believes.  When you say that God the Father is here, do you mean literal? If so that is not according to Scripture.  When we get Baptized we receive God's Holy Spirit, and by that we can understand the things of God.  But our Heavenly Fathers Being is still in Heaven where only Christ has gone.  All sleep in their graves until the Trumpet sounds.  Even Christ is not literal here on earth.  He too returned to Heaven where He came from John 17:5.
    The Apostles seen Him go… and like wise He will return.  Only then the Truth will be taught.  That has not happened yet.  Look around you……not only the truth is being taught yet….You say that God and Christ are not only in us, but also in Animals and plants etc.  how do you mean that?  Only God's Holy Spirit is up holding all, just like He is up holding us.  It is also a sign for those who do not believe in God.  But our Heavenly Father and Christ's Beings are still in Heaven….
    The Millenium is not here yet… Also our Heavenly Father will come with the New Jerusalem after Christ will give the Kingdom back to Him.
    1 Corinth. 15:28   Check out Revelation where it says that God will come to earth with the New Jerusalem….also check out Jeremiah, where it explains the New Jerusalem …….
    Peace and Love Irene


    No thankyou.  I think im ok where I am.  Also I am sure that no one on this forum knows what my beliefs are.  As I have not even gone into that really.  As for Dreams….God gave them to us.  Everything has a purpose.  Do you think that dreams are sawdust?  Good Lord.  I think you guys live in an itsee bitsee box.


    No my dear, I do not live in a itsie bitsie box…I live for God and Christ.  Dreams when they come need to be proven if they are from God or Satan, like I said Satan has but a short time left, and he is out to get whomever he can…..there is no hell. Only the Lake of Fire where all wicked will be destroyed along with the false Prophet and Satan.  .again the trinity is a man made doctrine and since you belong to a Church with Pastor Ann, MMMMMMMMMM Ask yourself do I believe what they do or not….the rest is in History, Ancient History which all of us should study…..Scriptures tell us to prove all thinks.  1 These. 5:21 Hey I have…..You also did not answer any of my Question, why is that?  Is it because you don't know or don't want to tell us…
    If your Church teaches the trinity you are part of it, and Math. 15:9 is real firm about that… No three person in one.  The Holy Spirit is not a Person, but the Spirit of our Heavenly Father.  If the Holy Spirit would be a Person then He would be Jesus Father and we do know that is not so.  Also Jesus said many times, just to give you some Scriptures.
    John 14:28 “….my Father is greater then I. and in Ephesian 4:6….one God and Father of all, who is ABOVE ALL, THROUGH ALL, AND IN US ALL.”  CLEAR SCRIPTURES…..these are only two Scriptures there are more…..but I guess you don't want to know the truth…….
    Peace and Love Irene


    once again no thankyou ive already got yer number

    #187809
    budhabee
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    Quote (Elizabeth @ April 20 2010,03:50)

    Quote (budhabee @ April 19 2010,09:26)
    Hi Justaskin

    I like yer moniker.  Pretty cool.  I really dont know what to say to your last post.  I'm not sure if you think I am a Christian or not.  I am.  There is a reason for my thinking that I am one but none that covers what you put in your last post.  I think that Heaven is here.  Our Father is here, and Jesus is here, not only are they in us but they are also in our plants, our soil, our animals,  our mountains, our rivers, our seas, our fires, our smoke, our rain, our wind and every blade of grass, and every pebble. and every strand of our hair, our stars, our Universe.  I could go on and on but this list is too long.  I dissagree  with you about the animal part and the science part.  Men and Women should be able to ask questions and study our earth and discover different answers to different problems, and invent and learn and achieve.

    Ok Ok Ok…..yes….I flunked Math.  Are you happy now?     :cool:  heh heh.


    I think you need to rethink your believes.  When you say that God the Father is here, do you mean literal? If so that is not according to Scripture.  When we get Baptized we receive God's Holy Spirit, and by that we can understand the things of God.  But our Heavenly Fathers Being is still in Heaven where only Christ has gone.  All sleep in their graves until the Trumpet sounds.  Even Christ is not literal here on earth.  He too returned to Heaven where He came from John 17:5.
    The Apostles seen Him go… and like wise He will return.  Only then the Truth will be taught.  That has not happened yet.  Look around you……not only the truth is being taught yet….You say that God and Christ are not only in us, but also in Animals and plants etc.  how do you mean that?  Only God's Holy Spirit is up holding all, just like He is up holding us.  It is also a sign for those who do not believe in God.  But our Heavenly Father and Christ's Beings are still in Heaven….
    The Millenium is not here yet… Also our Heavenly Father will come with the New Jerusalem after Christ will give the Kingdom back to Him.
    1 Corinth. 15:28   Check out Revelation where it says that God will come to earth with the New Jerusalem….also check out Jeremiah, where it explains the New Jerusalem …….
    Peace and Love Irene


    No thankyou. I think im ok where I am. Also I am sure that no one on this forum knows what my beliefs are. As I have not even gone into that really. As for Dreams….God gave them to us. Everything has a purpose. Do you think that dreams are sawdust? Good Lord. I think you guys live in an itsee bitsee box.

    #187740
    budhabee
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    well….U dont exactly make many converts with a lava of fear pouring out of you. So good luck with that approach. I dont know why Christians assume there way is the only way. It still goes back to “Believe in what I believe in or else!” I find that balistically arrogant. You might try a little HONEY with that bitter philosophy.

    #187639
    budhabee
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    Hi Justaskin

    I like yer moniker. Pretty cool. I really dont know what to say to your last post. I'm not sure if you think I am a Christian or not. I am. There is a reason for my thinking that I am one but none that covers what you put in your last post. I think that Heaven is here. Our Father is here, and Jesus is here, not only are they in us but they are also in our plants, our soil, our animals, our mountains, our rivers, our seas, our fires, our smoke, our rain, our wind and every blade of grass, and every pebble. and every strand of our hair, our stars, our Universe. I could go on and on but this list is too long. I dissagree with you about the animal part and the science part. Men and Women should be able to ask questions and study our earth and discover different answers to different problems, and invent and learn and achieve.

    Ok Ok Ok…..yes….I flunked Math. Are you happy now? :cool: heh heh.

    #187623
    budhabee
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    Quote (karmarie @ April 18 2010,22:02)

    Quote (JustAskin @ April 18 2010,00:31)
    Bud, can I Just Ask  (yes, i did notice your pun!) you to be VERY careful when indulging in Dream interpretation.

    The door to that room is hard to open and even when you get it open is not easy to enter through.

    Satan is stood outside that door and is ready to pounce on all those who attempt to go through that door. He will stand in your way and show you another door that is easier to go through…

    Hi JA

    In Joel it says people in the last days (Before the day of the Lord) will have dreams and visions, the only place this is happening today is with Muslim people who have never really heard the truth of Christ. So dreams and visions do have a big place in the last days.

    Iv had visions but not dreams. Apart from one. I have though dreamt 'warning dreams' which the 3 times it happened were completly correct.


    Hi Karm
    On this last post not sure what to say to that…just that I have dreams and visions…….(and I should stress here that none of my visions are of a coming doomsday or the end of freaking times) nor are any of my spiritual dreams….and I am no muslim. I will say that this is a beautiful planet, made for us specifically. People can shout about Demons and Devil's and the end of life all they want. It is not going to change the way I think of our creator. We are stumbling around in this world looking for a place to be happy. (This is not usually achieved by throwing and splashing fear onto individuals who do not believe or think just like you.) It seems as though Cristianity is not looking for happiness here on earth. That it can only be found in heaven. I am striving for it here. On this earth. That our Father made for us.

    #187532
    budhabee
    Participant

    Quote (JustAskin @ April 17 2010,22:31)
    Hi Bud,

    Perhaps it is how you present yourself. People expect a certain pattern of behaviour, called a Social Norm.
    By the way, your writing and content already told me, like Kar, that you are female.

    Please don't mention age as an obstacle to anything concerning God and His glorious revelation and the testimony of Christ. You are as young as the woman you feel (And believe me, my girlfriend appreciates that!)

    Bud, can I Just Ask  (yes, i did notice your pun!) you to be VERY careful when indulging in Dream interpretation.

    The door to that room is hard to open and even when you get it open is not easy to enter through.

    Satan is stood outside that door and is ready to pounce on all those who attempt to go through that door. He will stand in your way and show you another door that is easier to go through…


    Oh…Oh no I dont interpret dreams. I just like to hear about spiritual dreams. I think people would know if there dream was spiritual or not. Right? Well hell maybe not idk. Oh and on age….yeah….Im still not sure about that. A five year old often knows more then a two year old. Up that some. A 60 year old often knows more than a 40 year old. I attribute that to Gods age plan. Other wise why even live long in this society if it is not good for anything. I think the steadiness of a 60 year old would have to also give the appropriate recognition to an 80 year old. If you see what I mean. Then again there is always alzheimers, and age related illnesses. A damm shame too to waste all that knowlege. Also I better mention that Im not afraid to explore. Since Jesus said “Seek and you shall find.” I think that that message means to “really seek” which for me includes talking to people, reading all the books I can, and knowing for my part when to shut up. Ill stick to that though on the age thing as a possibility. Also I should say I dont testify really and I dont spread his glorious revelation. So those points are kinda mute for me. Also I should mention I am not afraid to talk about spiritual dreams. And doors being open and what not. If a door opens this kid is gonna go thru it. If your belief in Satan is standing outside he is probably apt to get a shiner. Mabey a couple of shiners and a bloody nose. Sooo…I guess Im not afraid of open doors and exploration and so far not Satan…so… sorry bout that. Also if Satan shows me another door (which Im not sure I see the logic in that being as I just went thru one door) I am going to go thru that door too. Let me try to explain the age thing. When I was 50 a young woman in our neigborhood befriended me. One day she looked at me and said “I am wise…I am really wise.” I smiled and looked down while I contemplated what to say. Finally I tried to explain to her “Yes I think you are very wise for a nineteen year old…but why would Our Father let me live for fifty years and not have me learn anything in that expance of time. When you say you are wise for a nineteen year old….what does living as long as I have mean. If it means nothing to you than our Father has wasted 30 precious years on me. And for what? Am I a 50 year old dunce? So for me age matters in every way.

    #187391
    budhabee
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    Ok hmmmm….lemmie see if I get this then…soooo….what do we do? Do we wear a STONE around our necks then? Sorry I just couldnt help it. It had to be said.

    #187390
    budhabee
    Participant

    Quote (JustAskin @ April 16 2010,19:35)
    Hi budhabee,

    Welcome. I hope your baptism in Jesus's name will go much smoother, but the Scriptures does say it will be not with natural water but with the Holy Spirit (which is represented as a River of pure Water in Revelation) and FIRE (Which, I think is a symbolism for God Almighty…!)

    Budhalee, I hope you enjoy the debate here.

    Do you have any specific topic of interest that drew you here?


    yes I do. I have been looking for a safe place where I could talk to people about their religious dreams or spiritual dreams just like Richie here. I am also looking for people who have had visions of the type given when they are awake and minding there own business…heh heh…so to speak. I have a few but GOL DANG….I dont wanna be the only one. No way am I going first! ahee hee

    O…the river of pure water….I call it into “the bubbling spring,” Or else “drinking from the bubbling spring.” I have been in it a few times taking huge gulps but remember how old I am…always remember that, cause it may just be an age related phonamanon. (ok ok my spelling sucks I know) heh heh…I mean some peoples just may not be old enough to have experienced this yet. Then again Idk…this may not even be an age related thing at all. Course there is always the possibility that I am completly bananas. But I sincerely hope not. Like I got a screw loose or something somewhere. I definately dont wanna be looking back over my shoulder for people who wanna go and stick me in the funny farm. Ahee hee hee

    #187387
    budhabee
    Participant

    Quote (karmarie @ April 16 2010,20:46)
    Funny story. Welcome Bud.


    ty guys and I probably better let ya know that I am a female. Since there really is nothing in my name to let ya know that I thought I better say that yup….female. U all can call me Bud if ya want….just remember I am a 61 year old female….or is it 62? :cool:

    #187286
    budhabee
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    Quote (Richie @ April 09 2010,00:34)
    Thanks guys… I do agree that reading the bible and talking to God directly is always the best thing to do but I'm always welcome to hear your advice too.

    Back on my vision, what do you think of it? Have many members here had revelations or visions as well? I must admit, that I feel new, reborn. I feel that I died and now I am raised, it's a feeling inside my heart in my soul that I just feel God's love so much more than before.

    I feel so happy, so alive! I feel that I have been in God's presence! With everything that happened with the church with the temptation, with my family been torn apart by my parents divorce by me making peace with them and my friends and now this revelation.

    It seemed GOD is pleased with the life I have lead and that I stayed faithful to him and that no matter how vulnerable I was, out in the open away from his church and his family (community) I proved my worth, I proved my faith and my love to him.

    My mom couldn't believe that I stood up at the Easter service and I spoke without any nerves, no hesitation. Put me up there any other day and I would stumble and stutter on my words with fear! That shows that I truly believed what I saw and how much I wanted to tell everyone!

    I would like to hear from anyone if they have had similar experiences


    Hi Richie
    I am new also. This is my first post. I wanted to share my baptismal experience with you. I also wanted to comment on your dream. A lot of what JA says is good advise. I do not know why God showed you Hell, but I believe it was a Hell of a dream. (I'm kidding honey….just a play on words.)
    From 1963 thru 1968 my family lived on the Navajo Reservation in the Northwest corner of New Mexico. My dad was a foreman at the Uranium Plant across the river. We are a white family. (I see u are from London…but I figure u know that I am talking about American Indians….not East indians)
    Anyway we went to the baptist church. It had a white side where the preacher spoke English for the whites….and a Navajo side where they had a Navajo speaking preacher. The Navajo Preacher knew English and so he could preach to the English side if our Preacher had to go somewhere. His son was MOOEEE Handsome and I had a huge crush on him. He was my age and he couldn't stand me. Anyway we ended up getting baptised on the same day by his father. My crush went first and all went well. (To get how hysterically funny this next part is maybe u just might have had to be there.) I mean it was fall down laughing. I dutifully climbed in the baptismal and put my hands in a prayerful position as Mr N. lowered me back into the water. (I call him Mr N although I am sure he has left this world long ago.) Anyway….I held my breath and held my breath and held my breath. He prayed over me than he kept talking and pretty soon I began thrashing around cause I was either gonna drown or pass out if I didnt get some air. My feet started kicking and water splashed up over the lip and all over the floor and I was trying to claw Mr N's hands off of my face from holding me down. He let me up but I sucked in a little water and began coughing. As he helped me out I saw his Son waiting in the wings with a huge grin on his face. I ran over to him. We were both in sheets and dripping wet. He said “Are u alright?” I said “WHAT!” Then I let him have it with a left hook. I missed….and he began to run down the corridor that led to the Navajo side with me hot on his trail. I started beating him on the back and of course this really made us laugh. Also we heard the whole audience laughing in the church. We fell down ourselves laughing so hard. I kept punching him “You JERK!” and then we would start laughing all over again. We finally came to our senses and went and got dressed. When I saw him in school later we would always punch each other could neither one of us could ever forget that day. I still grin when I think of it. (Probably somebody is gonna jump my post saying yada yada yada….but again I will say…ya had to be there.) Ahee hee hee :D

    #187278
    budhabee
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    I am checking to see if I could post. It have had a string of bad luck in even logging in so I guess I better see if this will work. WALLAH!

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