DesireTruth replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 years, 9 months ago
The passage of Gen 3:1 tells us a “serpent” spoke to Eve. Verse 1 also states this “serpent” was more cunning than all the beasts of the field God made. Is this “serpent” Sa-tan, is Sa-tan a created beast of the field, was this serpent somehow “possessed” by Sa-tan, or was this “serpent” a higher level of beast created?
This is act…[Read more]
Nick posted an update 2 years, 12 months ago
@berean
The JWs say that.
But
Daniel10.13
But the Prince of Persia was withstanding me for 21 days: then behold MICHAEL , ONE OF THE CHIEF PRINCES, came to help me, for I had been left there with the kings of Persia..
Heb 1
For to which of the angels did He ever say,
“You are My Son, today I have begotten you”
…are they not ministering spiri…[Read more]DesireTruth replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years ago
Is it possible for the old testament to be wrong?
Is it possible for the new testament to be wrong?
DesireTruth replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years ago
Isa 59:2 doesn’t explain why I need a Messiah for salvation. This verse states it is sin/iniquity that separates us from God. Nowhere does it state because of this separation we need a Messiah to get back to God. God said to repent, turn from your wickedness, and your sin will be remember no more. Since sin will separate us from God, all…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years ago
Oops, that previous post was meant for you not Danny.
Nick posted an update 3 years ago
@berean witnessing to the SDA, Amazing facts, human religion and Pastor Doug again. Sad.
DesireTruth replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 1 month ago
Isa 42:8 “I am Yahweh; that is my name, and I do not give my glory to another…” Hmmmmm!
DesireTruth replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 1 month ago
I said, “So we’re back to Jesus being God…false teaching!!”
You respond, “Me: No, Jesus in the beginning was with (the God) AND was God.”
Am I not understanding something here?!?!?
DesireTruth replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 1 month ago
So we’re back to Jesus being God…false teaching!!
Did Jesus ever claim to be God, NOPE; what became the Catholics faith codified that in stone at the Counsel of Nicea and then almost 50 years later the “spirit” was added to the mix to create the “trinity” doctrine. History is your friend.
DesireTruth replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 1 month ago
What you posted is “messianic Judaism”, a branch of “christianity” where Jews can keep their identity and customs, but follow the “rules” of the christian system. This organization, One for Israel, makes the claim Isa 53 is “the forbidden chapter”, which is a lie. This chapter isn’t “forbidden”, you can find studies done by Jewish teache…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 1 month ago
I have been over Isa 53:9 before, go find my response. If you want to believe Isa 53 is Jesus – fantastic. Now find where in the OT the Messiah was to be buried and raised up in three days!
Begin!
DesireTruth replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago
Isa.42
Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth;And your question is when did God’s “soul” delight in Israel/Jacob.
The first part that has to be answered is who is “mine elect” or “my chosen”? According to Strong’s 972 “bachir” means chosen and other word usages are “chosen one” and “elect.” “Ba…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago
Nothing in your reply have you proved or explained anything; pointy fingers, pointing at existing words, does not offer proof or an explanation to what the words are trying to convey. Am I suppose to translate pointy fingers to mean Jesus? Explain how these verses in Isa 42:1-4 (first “servant song”) ARE a reference to Jes…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago
You still cannot ignore the fact that what Jesus compared himself to was destroyed because it was made into an idle. So for you it is just the “pole” that matters.
HOWEVER!!!! You have failed to respond to what I said to you concerning Acts 8. What is your response to the blatant manipulation of the OT? This only one example, I can give…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago
I would recommend what you do is compare the Acts 8:32-33 passage to the OT passage in Isa 53:7-8 and tell me they’re the same. The Acts passage has been modified. Seems a bit naughty to change what Isaiah relayed from God.
Isa 8 “By oppression and judgment He was taken away;”
Acts 33 “In humiliation His judgment was taken away;…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago
@Gene,
@Berean,We can go off on another tangent with Isa 49:1-6 (the second Servant Song); however, we still haven’t finished with who is speaking in Isa 52:13-53:12. It’s as if everyone keeps dodging the question; let’s focus like a laser beam on this ONE topic so we can move on.
DesireTruth replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago
You don’t read the end of the book, you start at the beginning, and to understand this “ending” one must understand the “beginning.” All must be put into context. Who is speaking where in this “song”? Once we have this established we will move on.
Also, who is the “servant” spoken of starting in chapter 41? If you are unsure, please…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 2 months ago
@Gene
You aren’t listening to my words; nowhere have I implied Israel died for anyone’s sins. Go back to some previous posts and re-read. You and Berean are trying to merge two separate ideas – what I am reading in this passage and what you believe the passages states.
You still haven’t told me who you believe is speaking in the follo…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 3 months ago
I wasn’t asking about your personal experience; I am talking about the general state of the church today and the conversion process used. Here is what’s written on two separate “christian” tracks picked up in the last year:
Written on a fake “trillion dollar bill”, “The trillion dollar question: will you go to heaven when you die? Here…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic Even demons believe he is the son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 3 months ago
No one has provided a single passage that states what Paul said in I Cor 15. Every passage given as “proof” has either been read between the lines or taken out of context. Therefore nothing given! Truth isn’t what you believe or want it to be, truths are cold, hard facts. Paul made the claim, now where are the facts?
Isa 53 has been…[Read more]
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