Gene,

Still, it is the truth. A man cannot save mankind. Jesus who was God had to take humanity on his divinity to be able to save us. And that, no one will be able to dismantle this glorious fact.

Amen!

For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.(Colossians 2:9)

Proclaimer

Why divert the subject? Berean is a nickname, don’t attach too much importance to it …. I’m amazed that you didn’t realize that yes, I belong to a church (SDAChurch), but primarily to Jesus my Savior and my Lord to whom I gave my life about 45 years ago. I am a single member of the Seventh-day Adventist Church with my wife, and we…[Read more]

Proclaimer

If Jesus is not God from God, he cannot create anything, save anything, judge anything, ….

WHO ARE THE 144,000 MENTIONED IN REVELATION? PART 2

Daily Devotional

People wonder if the 144,000 are literally 12,000 Israelites each from the 12 tribes. Even though this belief is common in some circles, after a close look, it becomes obvious that this is unlikely. A careful study in the Old Testament reveals an important clue. Because the…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer

Babylon out FROM the great sea ?

No.

Great sea IS symbolic like the four winds

….I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea. 

God bless

MIKE

👇
For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead(attributs OF God) bodily. (Colossians 2:9) 
And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.  (Colossians 1:17) 
and upholding all things by the word of his power,…(Hebrews 1:3)

Danny

I THNK IT IS NOT BECAUSE THE HOLY ANGELS, CREATURES OF GOD, ARE NOT BEGOTTEN DIRECTLY FROM GOD,LIKE JESUS, THAT THEY ARE NOT LITTERAL SONS OF GOD.🙂

Mike

The ONLY BEGOTTEN Son OF God

WAS BEGOTTEN OF THE SUBSTANCE

OF GOD ( DIVINE AND ETERNAL SUBSTANCE OF GOD)

THE SON IS
the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person,(or substance,essence)   
person, or substance,essence

hupostasis
hoop-os’-tas-is
from a compound of upo – hupo 5259 and isthmi – histemi 2476; a setting…[Read more]

Hi Danny

“I believe the Son is the only begotten literal son of God. I have been saying that for 28+ years. Jesus is begotten, not created. A created son would not be a literal son.   

Yes. I believe that too.”

Me

Angels who have never sinned are created beings and they are LITTERAL SONS . 

You do not think ?

God bless

 The moral purpose of prophecy

CHAPTER 8
JESUS IS REIGNING NOW!

The Scriptures make it plain that the prophecies concerning the reign of David’s Son were to be fulfilled by His death and resurrection. (See Acts 2:29, 32; 13:22-24, 32-34; Rom. 1:4; 2 Tim. 2:8.) Paul preached the kingdom of God and of Christ as’ a then reality, into which every…[Read more]

John 18:37

Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king.
To this end was I born(Gennao), and for this cause came I into the world,
that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

was I born(gennao)

gennaw
gennao
ghen-nah’-o
from a variation…[Read more]

Gadam

this is the dialogue often quoted here on this Forum. Believing in a human Messiah for securing the so called eternal life is no where found in the Hebrew Bible. This is the new invention of the writer of the Fourth Gospel.

Me

Certainly not, John knew that the Son of God was God in the beginning and that he was made flesh. This is…[Read more]

Proclaimer

You

Google this:

What is the great sea? 

Me

Daniel 7

In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream, and told the sum of the matters.
Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the…[Read more]

Proclaimer

If you believe that Jesus is the God spoken of in the Bible, then you must be wilfully blind.

No Proclaimer, I BELEIVE THAT THE FATHER IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD AND JESUS HIS BEGOTTEN AND BELOVED SON.

WHAT YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND IS THAT THE SON HAS ALL THE ATTRIBUTES OF HIS FATHER. AND THEREFORE HE HAS IN HIS DIVINITY THE OMNIPOTENCE, THE…[Read more]

Hi To all

WHO ARE THE 144,000 MENTIONED IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION? PART 1
Daily Devotional

During the time of Jesus’ first coming, the 12 apostles were a type of “Special Forces.” After three and-a-half years of intensive personal training with Jesus, the disciples were used by God to achieve great victories. They penetrated Satan’s dominio…[Read more]

And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.  
Not only is Jesus—God—responsible for creating all things, He is also the reason all things continue to exist. AMEN!

Proclaimer, Mike,

SINCE Christ IS BEFORE ALL THINGS, IT IS TO SAY ALL CREATION, IT IS THAT HIMSELF IS NOT A CREATURE, HE IS A BEGOTTEN BEING, THE REFLECTION OF THE GLORY OF THE FATHER AND THE EVEN FOOTPRINT OF HIS PERSON, HE IS EQUAL TO THE FATHER.

SINCE Christ IS BEFORE ALL THINGS, IT IS TO SAY ALL CREATION, IT IS THAT HIMSELF IS NOT A…[Read more]

Mike

I know from the letter to the Colossians that the Son of God IS BEFORE ALL THINGS …. THIS MEANS ETERNITY ….. AND THIS IS ENOUGH FOR ME. I BELIEVE.😐

God the Father who has always existed IS FOR US HUMAN A MYSTERY. BY FAITH WE CAN ACCEPT WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING.
THAT THE SON OF GOD BORN IN THE DAYS OF ETERNITY BE WHAT THE FATHER IS WHEN IN SPIRITUALITY: WE CAN UNDERSTAND IT. BUT WHAT THE SON WAS IN THE BEGINNING WHAT THE FATHER WAS WHEN IN NATURE (hupostasis) ONE CANNOT UNDERSTAND IT, IT IS ALSO…[Read more]

Mike

Michah 5:2 Say

But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

The origin of Jesus thus goes back to the times of eternity, and it is therefore BEFORE ANYTHING WAS…[Read more]