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    Anthony replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 4 months ago

    Hi Gene Nick and Jodi

    You keep on tell evryever that doesn’t agree with you that there confused or they have the anti-christ spirit.but open your eyes it’s you three that is confused and have the anti-christ spirit.

    Jesus said, “And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began”(John 17:5) do you t…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene

    Jesus claimed to be God. He didn’t leave any other option open. His claim must be either true or false, so it is something that should be given serious consideration.

    Jesus’ question to His disciples, “But who do you say that I am?” (Matthew 16:15)

    First, suppose that His claim to be God was false. If it was false, then we have only two…[Read more]

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    Anthony replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 4 months ago

    Hi Gene  you don’t have a clue what I’m talking about. You keep on trying to tell me that’s not how the gnostic believe, well I don’t know what to tell you Gene but that’s how they belive (that Jesus Christ was just a man and was adopted by God. (At His baptism) just like you. God bless

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    Hi Gene do you believe the scriptures, (not me.)                                                Jesus replied, “Before Abraham was born, I AM.”    Gene do you believe that? God bless Gene

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    Anthony replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 4 months ago

    Hi Nick this may help

    Gnostic: Docetists said that the flesh and the divine cannot mix, therefore Jesus was truly God but only in the form of a human being. Gnosticism offered two traditional answers to the question . . . Adoptionist Gnostics said Jesus was a regular man, but when he was baptized by John a divine power descended on him and he w…[Read more]

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    Anthony replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 4 months ago

    Hi Nick. This may help

    Gnostcism is/was the teaching that tried to reduce Christianity to a philosophy. The Gnostics claimed they had secret and superior knowledge. It generally taught that matter was evil and that the God of the Bible is a lower god called the Demiurge. The Absolute Supreme Being is unknowable. Jesus could not be God in flesh b…[Read more]

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    Anthony replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 4 months ago

    Hi Nick  you say that the Son wasn’t adopted by God. Well your doctorine says otherwise you say that The only begotten Son was just a man and He got anointed at His baptism, just like we do. So apparently you don’t belive that theGod send Him How else could He take away the sins of the world if He wasn’t Adopted according to your doctorine. Like…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene

    When Jesus was asked, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have you SEEN ABRAHAM?” Jesus replied, “Before Abraham was born, I AM.” Jesus did not say, “Before Abraham was born, I was” as if he was created before Abraham. By saying, “before Abraham was born, I am” in the context of John 8, Jesus affirmed that he always pre-existed as…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene.     I said this to you.

    Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! Gene do you believe that a man just like you can do this because your anointed just like the man Jesus Christ was, so you say.          Then you come back and said:.

    Anthony. …in fact if it wasen’t a man just like me, infact exactly like me that did n…[Read more]

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    Anthony replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 4 months ago

    Hi everyone

    by the way, there’s only one Spirit.

    “For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst.” Matthew 18:20

    Wherefore, the scriptures prove that “the Spirit of Christ” is “the Spirit of God” as the omnipresent Spirit who indwells true New Testament believers. If Jesus is only a mere man, then how can y…[Read more]

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    Anthony replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 4 months ago

    Hi everyone                                        And without controversy, great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen by angels, preached to the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.” 1 Timothy 3:16 – Webster’s Translation
    Even if we go with the translation, “He was mani…[Read more]

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    “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! Gene do you believe that a man just like you can do this because your anointed just like the man Jesus Christ was, so you say. God bless in Him Anthony

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    Hi Gene   for one thing I’m not a trinitarians. You read what I wrote about Abraham and Jesus Christ go back and read it again Gene. I like share this one with you, about Jesus Christ pre-existing.

     

    And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was. God bless Gene hang in there

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    Anthony replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 4 months ago

    Nick you believe  like early Jewish christian believed and the Gnostic

    They believed the same way you do about Jesus Christ:

    Adoptionism claims that, before His adoption, (at His baptism)  Jesus was a mere man, although sinless. However, we know, biblically, that all men are under the curse of Adam and there are no sinless men. Romans 5:12-14 F…[Read more]

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    Anthony replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 4 months ago

    Nick don’t forget God was His Father God bless.

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    Anthony replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 4 months ago

    Hi Nick really doesn’t matter it the spirit was speaking to the anointed  man Jesus as you said what really does that have to do if Jesus Christ pre-existed or not.

    Jesus said, “And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began”(John 17:5)

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    Anthony replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 4 months ago

    Word for thought:

    Adoptionism claims that, before His adoption, (at His baptism)  Jesus was a mere man, although sinless. However, we know, biblically, that all men are under the curse of Adam and there are no sinless men. Romans 5:12-14 Further, no man can be justified by works of the Law

    12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the…[Read more]

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    Anthony replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 4 months ago

    Gene alot of your other scriptures really don’t have to much to do with if Jesus pre-existed or not. I gave you one scripture that show that Jesus did pre-existed God bless Gene.

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    Anthony replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 4 months ago

    Gene the scriptures say what they say and means what it means.God bless

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    Anthony replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 4 months ago

    Gene it takes time to grow up. Pull your boot straps up, pull your chest out, pull your Chin up. You can do it I’m praying for you, and trying to just trying to give you plan, simple scriptures. God bless.

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