Anthony replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 4 months ago
Hi Gene I don’t believe I said that I no you don’t. I’ll go back and check if I did I apologise for that if I did.. God bless Gene
Anthony replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 4 months ago
Nick. I believe the spirit that goes back to the Father is called “the breath of God or the breath of life”
God blessNick
Anthony replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 4 months ago
Hi Nick. You said:
Hi Anthony,
His own human spirit left him at Calvary.
Read the accounts in Matthew, Luke and John.
The Spirit of anointing is faithful and never leaves.
The Spirit of Life gives eternal life to the anointed ones.
I read and study these scriptures and more. I can agree with you that Jesus Christ spirit went to His Fa…[Read more]
Anthony replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 4 months ago
I will read them Nick which ones? Do we agree what I posted about the Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit the Spirit of Christ?
God bless Nick
Anthony replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 4 months ago
Nick the Spirit is His on Spirit it’s not like there three Nick it’s His owe Spirit and the Father’s no Nick He spoke for Him self seeing that it’s the Spirit of Christ there not another Spirit as the Trinity speaks. Hello
God bless
Anthony replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 4 months ago
Nick that’s where Jesus Christ went to Haven to be glorified so the Spirit of Christ must of came from there Nick the Spirit of Christ must of came from where the Son went. Ya let me think ( heaven.) That is The Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost. The Spirit of Christ. Can you agree to that?
God bless Nick
Anthony replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 4 months ago
Hi Nick
Romans 8:9
But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.
God bless NickAnthony replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 4 months ago
Hi Nick you have to be kidding me. I’ll agree to this Nick. that Jesus Christ went to heaven with his Father. He First had to be glorified before the Holy Spirit (the comforter) the (Spirit of truth) could come( that is the Spirit of Christ.) Seeing that there only one Spirit and it’s the Spirit of the Father and Son all things go thro…[Read more]
Anthony replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 4 months ago
Gene you outright deny scripture God Word. God bless Gene
Anthony replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 4 months ago
Hi Gene you just talk to me telling me to show scriptures . Well Gene I have been showing you proofing Scriptures you haven’t been showing to many you do alot of talking about your doctorines like people are just going to believe you that Jesus Christ was just a man please who made you God spokemam here on earth.your mostly telling people without…[Read more]
Anthony replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 4 months ago
Hi Gene what would it even matter what the dating is, the fact is you believe in Jesus Christ just like some of them did.
Gnosticism offered two traditional answers to the question . . . (Jesus Christ) Adoptionist Gnostics said Jesus was a regular man, but when he was baptized by John a divine power descended on him and he was “adopted” as the Son of God.Anthony replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 4 months ago
No I’m not Gene
- Docetists and the
Valentinian Gnostics was Gnostic back then
Search it out. God bless.
Anthony replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 4 months ago
Hi Gene ypu keep on trying to correct me on the gnostic. Gnostic: Docetists said that the flesh and the divine cannot mix, therefore Jesus was truly God but only in the form of a human being. Gnosticism offered two traditional answers to the question . . . Adoptionist Gnostics said Jesus was a regular man, but when he was baptized by John…[Read more]
Anthony replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 4 months ago
Gene I can’t help it if scriptures say that. But as far as The only begotten Son (Jesus Christ) I believe as for now that he Had a beginning . I can’t see what the Trinity doctorine says as far as eternal generation or eternal Sonship. I believe He was begotten of the Father before all ages or the foundation of the world. I believe that He come…[Read more]
Anthony replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 4 months ago
Hi Gene. Here are some different translation.
John 8:58, NIV: “Very truly I tell you,’ Jesus answered, ‘before Abraham was born, I am!'”
John 8:58, ESV: “Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.””
John 8:58, KJV: “Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.”
John 8:58, …[Read more]
Anthony replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 4 months ago
Hi Gene you said
Anthony. …saying i am before a person is not the same as saying i was “born” before that person. If we were in a line and i was in front of you could not i say, before Anthony i am, that would have nothing to do with me being born before you now would it. In fact, if i were to reference a berth i would say i was “born” before yo…[Read more]
Anthony replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 4 months ago
Hi Gene
In its extent, the preposition “before” reaches back into the past without end or limit, and so “Before Abraham was, ” clearly need not mean “after Adam,” just as “before the Morning Star” need not mean “after the angels.” But when He said “before ,” He intended, not that He was included in any one’s existence, but that all things are inc…[Read more]
Anthony replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 4 months ago
Hi Gene
This may help. In Koine Greek, thus some interpret it, as Jesus’ own self-declaration as God. In John 8:24 Jesus states: “For unless you believe that I am, you will die in your sins”, and later the crowd attempts to stone Jesus in response to his statement in John 8:58: “Before Abraham was, I am.”. Many other translations including the A…[Read more]
Anthony replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 4 months ago
Hi Gene
John 8:58, NIV: “Very truly I tell you,’ Jesus answered, ‘before Abraham was born, I am!'”
John 8:58, ESV: “Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.””
John 8:58, KJV: “Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.”
John 8:58, NASB: “Jesus said to them, ‘Truly, truly,…[Read more]
Anthony replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 4 months ago
Hi Gene this may help : you said, before Abraham was, would be like you being in line before me that it’s doesn’t mean ” be born before Him (Abraham).
Anthony. …saying i am before a person is not the same as saying i was “born” before that person. If we were in a line and i was in front of you could not i say, before Anthony i am, that would…[Read more]
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